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A fact from Dinah John appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 September 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Dinah John was one of an estimated fifteen Native American women from New York state to serve in the War of 1812?

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 23:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Dinah John was one of an estimated fifteen Native American women from New York state to serve in the War of 1812? Source: https://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/they-also-served-american-indian-women-war-1812
- ALT1:... that it took Dinah John almost seventy years to receive a widow's pension for her husband's service in the War of 1812?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Richardson Island
Comment: various permutations possible

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Eddie891, review follows: article created 18 September; article exceeds minimum length, is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing; hooks are both interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Handful of queries:

You have a citation to "Hauptman 2006 pp. 23–1" but the page numbers don't look right ("23-24" or "23-31"?)
ALT0: Source states "Arthur C. Parker, the noted museologist of Seneca ancestry, claimed that 15 Native women, from New York served in the War of 1812." so should we say "estimated fifteen Native American women from New York"? Or did no other Native American women serve (even on the British side?)
ALT1: the war officially ended in 1815 (though her service was in 1812) and she wasn't awarded a pension until 1882 so would it be more impressive to say "almost seventy years"?

All the best - Dumelow (talk) 10:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow Good points, all, should be resolved Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Eddie891, all good. One minor comment on looking again, ought we to say "New York state" in the hook to clarify it's not the city; not sure what usual practice is in this case? - Dumelow (talk) 12:44, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow *sigh* yes, I suppose we should... That's my instincts as an upstate-new yorker kicking in to de-emphasize the city :) Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: why is there an equals sign in her name? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 23:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To T:DYK/P3