Talk:Dipper Pines

Real Name

According to the Journal 3 real-life book his real name is Mason 121.214.35.244 (talk) 07:32, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

If that's really true (I don't have a copy of it myself), you can cite it with {{cite book}}. – nyuszika7h (talk) 08:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

The book cite also needs sufficient info to find the exact location in the book, basically what page. Verification shouldn't require reading the whole book to find the information. This also indicated that the person adding the cite has actually read and verified the info personally and is not just passing on info from other sources. Also, what relationship does this book have with the television series we are documenting here. There seems to be no articles on Wikipedia about that book. Is it official background? Is it unofficial? This needs to be clear. So far references (see DisneyXD official names) support this character's official "real" name as Dipper Pines. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:47, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

To add Amazon has the book - ISBN is 978-1484746691. Written by Hirsh, published by Disney Press, released July 26, 2016, as background to the series. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:13, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm the anon at the top, thanks for the info on citing but where in the article should I add his name? IndridCold13 (talk) 15:18, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

@IndridCold13: I assume you have the book and can provide the details required at {{cite book}}, page info and some info on what exactly the book stated is most important. Since this info is after the series completed I suggest that a sentence be added after the intro sentence in the lead explaining that the Journal 3 gave his formal name as "Mason Pines" but leave the intro character name as what is credited in the series itself. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:50, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Here's the ref for y'all: <ref name="Hirsch 2016">{{cite book | last=Hirsch | first=Alex | title=Gravity Falls Journal 3 | publisher=Disney Press | location=Glendale, California | year=2016 | isbn=978-1-4847-4669-1}}</ref> EvergreenFir (talk) 16:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

It should have a page number though. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

See Template:Cite book/doc § In-source locations, and something about what exactly the book stated there - possibly also use § Quote. 288 pages is a lot to search through to verify info. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:27, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't have a copy either. Just whipped up the cite for y'all. It's supposedly near the end of the book. I'll see if the library has it. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:42, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

The book doesn't actually number the pages. Does this change the sourcing requirments at all? IndridCold13 (talk) 17:12, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Not really – at the least, a "section" or "chapter" would need to be cited in lieu of a page number. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

So now since there's a reference for his real name, do we add his name to the article? I notice it still says that his real name has not been reveled on the article. If we can't use a page number or chapter title (since technically the book doesn't have chapters if my memory serves me correctly), can we just write out the quote where he states his name is Mason?--Samf1998 (talk) 14:52, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Samf1998: Read more closely, it already has the info, referenced: "His formal name was never revealed in the series, however, in the book Gravity Falls: Journal 3, a guide book about the series, Dipper says his name is "Mason" to his great uncle Stanford Pines" (emphasis mine). nyuszika7h (talk) 14:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Nyuszika7H: Ah! I see it now, my bad. Thank you for pointing it out--Samf1998 (talk) 14:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Samf1998: Glad that you have already begun to interact with Wikipedians! As you can see, the whole world is watching. As you move forward, make sure to be extra vigilant of your questions and such. Alfgarciamora (talk) 12:04, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

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