Talk:Direct rule (Northern Ireland)

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Assembly suspended until 2012? Eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.169.34 (talk) 16:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm worried myself. It now says 2092 in the article. Was it supposed to be 1992? - Umi-chan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.246.236 (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Crown Colony[edit]

Proposal to merge Crown Colony into this article
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I would not support the proposal to merge Crown Colony with Direct Rule, two separate and distinct subjects. Justin talk 16:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would also oppose the proposal, as direct rule has often been imposed on territories that are not Crown colonies. The Turks and Caicos Islands, which are currently (as of 2009) under direct rule, is a British Overseas Territory for example. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 00:04, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of curiosity do you have examples? I'm trying too think of a time when a Crown colony was not under direct rule? CaribDigita (talk) 06:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Crown colonies were a historical entity, direct rule is an unrelated means of Government, the two are quite different. --Gibnews (talk) 21:31, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, I feel the main difference is the point of history when this occurred. Just as the role of the Monarchy has evolved, the meaning of "Crown" has likewise shifted. I think that since much of the real power in the United Kingdom has evolved (from Monarch to Parliament), these two terms are largely synonymous now.

One can consider the modern evolution of following similar terms:

  • Crown Copyright - A government copyright.
  • Crown Corporation - A government business entity.
  • Crown Debt - Government owed debt.
  • Crown Dependency - A dependency where the British Governor has the most responsibility.
  • Crown Lands - Government owned lands. (parks, reservations, etc.)
  • Crown attorney/Crown prosecutor - A government legal advisor.
  • Prerogative of the Crown - The government's decision to do something. (Esp. since the Monarch now by-convention abides by the decisions of the government served.)
  • If someone is imprisoned they are considered property of "The Crown" (government), not literally the monarch any longer.

The Turks and Caicos situation is roughly the same thing as when territories are changed to Crown colonies. It is the same basic process to bring about stricter controls and oversight when a territory isn't quickly moving in the correct desired direction of The Crown. The Governors of the British territories are under the government's Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. CaribDigita (talk) 06:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As this merger suggestion is now seven month old and the consensus is clearly opposition to the proposal (3 to 1) I have removed the merger request from the articles. ThinkingTwice contribs | talk 20:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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2017-2020 suspension[edit]

The article seems to contradict itself on whether direct rule was applied during the recently ended suspension of Stormont following the RHI scandal. Josephsimpson1 (talk) 00:02, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]