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Disney Hyperion[edit]

Two years ago the redirect Disney Hyperion was re-targeted from Hyperion Books (aka Hyperion Books for Children) to this page by User:Spshu. --presumably without consideration of 100 pages that link Disney Hyperion, i infer from the large number and finding no relevant talk.

Four years ago Disney Hyperion was moved to Hyperion Books, following a claim that "all book information" uses the latter and a supporting remark that 'I don't think I've ever heard it called "Disney Hyperion".' Talk:Hyperion Books#Requested move

I don't know why so many articles link Disney Hyperion but take for granted that many should link Hyperion Books rather than this page.

Is there good reason Disney Hyperion should redirect here? --P64 (talk) 18:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Directing discussion to Talk:Hyperion Books#Hyperion Books and Disney Hyperion as more information was proved at there. Spshu (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Information Update[edit]

Under the Waterfire Saga heading it says that DPW Milan will release graphic novels and comic books in 2015. I have not been able to find anything showing that these have been released. Can someone verify this? Or should it just be cut? Christina Duke (talk) 21:45, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot seem to find any info either way. I changed it to planned ("..was schedule...", but not issue. If you want to cut it all together then go ahead. Spshu (talk) 15:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Franchise discussion[edit]

Inclusion of Plot Details[edit]

I suggest that the plot details of various products Disney Publishing has produced do NOT belong in an article on the history of the business. They are more properly useful in an article about the books themselves. Any consensus on removing the plots? Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:03, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not just the history of the business given it is a creative business. It has a franchise section which seems reasonable to have a short paragraph of sourced plot. An alternative might be to add DPW's franchises with DCP's franchises into a "Franchises of DCP" article, since DPW is a subsidiary of DCP. Spshu (talk) 18:35, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support removal per Twofingered Typist. Likewise, I think that the entire "Franchises" section should be spun off into a series of separate articles, which can then be expanded upon. Electric Burst^{(Electron firings)}_(Zaps) 21:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and by the by, I think the Franchises section is unnecessarily bloating up the article and violates WP:UNDUE. Electric Burst^{(Electron firings)}_(Zaps) 21:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They should not be "a series of separate articles" as they are not yet notable on their own. Franchises are (currently) important to creative business entities like DPW, so UNDUE does not apply. --Spshu (talk) 12:42, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Revisiting Franchises?[edit]

Hi all,

Just wanted to revisit the franchises discussion from 2016. Is it necessary to include these plot details from various Disney Publishing franchises, especially if it is an incomplete list? I'm unclear if the three listed franchises are the only franchises under Disney Publishing Worldwide, but the article seems to imply that. (In addition, the references for those statements are a bit filsmy... references 36 and 41 don't seem to show that these are the only franchises that Disney is creating.) Perhaps a "Franchises of DCP" article may be reasonable, as it seems that Artemis Fowl, Rick Riordan, and many other books all fall under the umbrella of Disney Publishing Worldwide. ChunyangD (talk) 04:35, 12 November 2018‎

@Twofingered Typist, Electricburst1996, and Spshu:

Lots of lists are incomplete and some may never be completed. Where do you get that there are "if the three listed franchises are the only franchises under Disney Publishing Worldwide, but the article seems to imply that."? If you are getting that then you are not reading the article and are just looking at the index. Why? Click straight on Disney Publishing Worldwide#Franchises as there is a bulleted list of 6(!!!) DPW franchises plus discussion of DCP franchise that DPW was brought into. Of course the sources don't indicated "these are the only franchises that Disney is creating." -- this is a limited list to those of DPW, as Disney Consumer Products has its own Franchise section and DPW services other Disney unit franchises. Some of the franchises have their own article thus did not get sections here.

Just having a book line or series is not enough for a franchise, they need to be in other media. Percy Jackson & the Olympians or Rick Riordan (one of them) might be consider a franchise - Riordan having multiple lines of books, an imprint and one line being partly done as movies. The books started at Miramax Books, thus I must have considered it to not be a DPW franchise.

As far as splitting it out as a separate article, it is hard to find an article to support list articles as notable. I did try suggest that splitting out Disney Consumer Products (to which DPW was a part of) franchises with DPW's into an article to strength the notability. Spshu (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Spshu: Thanks for the clarification! And my bad for saying three instead of six - I did mean six!

In that case, can we add a tag stating that "This list is incomplete"? I came to this page because of Rick Riordan, and was confused because it seemed like Rick Riordan's series was not part of Disney-Hyperion, even though the imprint showed that it was.

For my own clarification, does this mean that this franchises section is intended for franchises created by the DPW brand? If so, that might be the most helpful line to add in! I'm not in the publishing/media industry, so I'm honestly not very clear about the differences between a publishing company, the brands it controls, and the franchises it creates. So, speaking from a lay-person perspective, it would be helpful to just add a sentence marking the difference :)

Thanks again for your reply and clarifications! ChunyangD (talk) 13:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Waterfire Saga edit revert question[edit]

I'm not sure why my edit regarding the release of the forth book in the Waterfire Saga was reverted. The revert from Spshu has the comment "unsourced", but the book (Waterfire Saga, Book Four: Sea Spell) already had a link to Amazon, clearly showing that it was released on June 14, 2016. JBnAZ (talk) 00:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Star Darlings edit reversion[edit]

My edit regarding the release of the Star Darlings books 3-14 was reverted. The revert from Spshu has the comment "not reliable sources", but other links on the page do have Amazon references, and the other books received no press releases aside from Good Wish Gone Bad. What would be a reliable source in this circumstance? (This link shows all of the books which can be sourced individually but I was worried it'd be removed again. http://books.disney.com/?s=star+darlings) 99.19.14.79 (talk) 23:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]