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A fact from Ditshwanelo appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 August 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Ditshwanelo has been campaigning for over twenty years against capital punishment in Botswana?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ditshwanelo.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:38, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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* ... that Ditshwanelo has been campaigning since the 1990s against capital punishment in Botswana? Source: (1990s) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bHomETtda5EC&dq page 97 and (2020) https://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?aid=84611&dir=2020/february/27

- ALT1:... that patron of Ditshwanelo and emeritus Archbishop Walter Makhulu said "Yes the Bible does say it is opposed [to homosexuality]. But it was written in its own day and in its own time"? Source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CZhEqsNtNS4C&dq pages 49-50

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Created by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 23:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hi.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - If I'm reading this source correctly, Ditshwanelo won an emergency stay of execution in 1999 after given 3 days notice, not 1995. Technically that is in the 90s, but to me it feels a bit deceptive. I think it would be better to say "since the late 1990s", or "since 1999", unless you have sources for that still. And also update the article with the above correction. Let me know if I misread.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Awsomaw (talk) 22:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thanks for the review, hmm yes I see what you mean. Yup should be 1999 in text, changed. I was seeing it more like Ditshwanelo was founded in 1993 and has campaigned against the death penalty ever since eg 1999 and eg 2020. However I can't find a definite citation saying something like "Ditshwanelo was formed in 1993 and immediately started campaigning about capital punishment" so I'll suggest an alt below. Also what do you think about ALT1? Mujinga (talk) 15:11, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0a ... that Ditshwanelo has been campaigning for over twenty years against capital punishment in Botswana? Source: (1990s) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bHomETtda5EC&dq page 97 and (2020) https://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?aid=84611&dir=2020/february/27

@Mujinga: ALT0a looks good, thanks! Awsomaw (talk) 01:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review of ALT0a, I'm fine to go ahead with that one and I'll leave ALT1 open for review as another option Mujinga (talk) 09:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]