Talk:Dizzee Rascal

Age?

Two different dates on top and on right pannel..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.9.227 (talk) 15:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Stand up Tall

Stand up Tall was produced by DJ Youngstar, not to be confused with the other Dubstep pioneer Youngsta. --76.170.78.141 (talk) 06:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Dylan Mills

For a good while his birth name has been given in Wikipedia as "Dylan Mills". The start of paragraph about his early life suggests he is called Mills so what on Earth is that name at the start of the paragraph? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.98.18 (talk) 01:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Tongue and cheek has gone platinum

Needs to be changed at the top to say Tongue n cheek went plat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.134.8.58 (talk) 23:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Kanye West

All of the page has been replaced by Kanye West/the page redirects to Kanye West. This needs to be fixed. andylaw31 12:31, 8 June 2009 (BST)

Date of Birth

It cannot possibly be correct. He was referred to constantly (and referred to himself) as being 18/19 around the time his first album came out, yet according to this he would have been 17. The article also refers to him winning an award in September 2003 aged 19. According to the DOB listed in this article, he would have been 17 then. (Unsigned)

mytowerhamlets.co.uk also lists 01/11/1985 (http://www.mytowerhamlets.co.uk/towerhamlets/celebs&gossip-dizzee_rascal.htm) however IMDB lists 01/10/1985 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1476707/bio). I'm inclined to believe IMDB. PoisonedPigeon 14:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

A link with that DOB was provided from his own site some months ago, yet his own site said he was 22 when according to the DOB he would have been 21!

Are you saying you really believe he was 17 when Boy in Da Corner came out? He was listed everywhere, including out of his own mouth, as 18.

Here you go, quoting from your own link- "Dizzee gets Mercury Music Prize! - 19/09/03 Tower Hamlets born rapper Dizzee Rascal has become the first underground urban artist to win the prestigious Mercury Music Prize.

19 year old Dizzee and his debut album ’Boy in Da Corner’ beat hot favourites The Darkness and Coldplay to win the award. He said that he had not been expecting to win but he was ’happy to be recognised’"

If he was 19 in September 2003, and his birthday is October or November, the year would have to be 1983 not 1985....I highly doubt a 17 year old would get reported as 19. If anything, it would have been highlighted how impressive it was for a 17 year old to be doing all that. But I bet you can't find ANYTHING from 2003 saying he was 17.

ok, found some more links

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/14694-interview-dizzee-rascal "the 20-year old Brit" in June 05

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/17038-boy-in-da-corner "18 year-old Dizzee Rascal" in July 03

How could the guy have got his age wrong when interviewing him......

Clearly he was 18 in mid-03 when BIDC came out, so he is older than listed

Rascal is seen as the British 50 cent or 2Pac.- Bit biased.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.244.239 (talk) 11:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC) 

And the connection's between that and his date of birth are? --Tukogbani (talk) 12:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Years active

Why are his years active from 1995-present? He was only 10 in 1995 and the article itself says he started MCing at the age of 15, which would be 2000 from my calculations.

There must be a delay

Nicely written article, but i must say that i dont think thre is anyway dizzee is meeting this date. No intreviews, no new single and stilla 10th of april release date. Whats he doing!! also im planning adding a new section metioning his record label and signings. Okay?

I agree. (It is simply a bad idea to present record release announcements as facts in a Wikipedia article). Go ahead! regards, High on a tree 23:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, but its written now, im new at wikipedia and code language so i didn't know how to insert references, or make hyperlinks for pages within wikipedia. If anyone could help, it would be appreciated.

websites used

http://www.myspace.com/dizzeerascal

http://www.dizzeerascal.co.uk

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,11711,1472012,00.html

http://www.xlrecordings.com/friends/~dirteestank/

I havent completely finshed so i will continue working on the article. Thanks Davinche 17:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know the story about his stabbing in Aya Napia?

                                --Djjazzyjeff69 11:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, the story goes that Dizzee pinched/slapped Lisa Maffia on the arse, which led to a fight with Megaman, which then later led to the stabbing. Who did the stabbing is not normally said (It would likely be seen as snitching, even more of a taboo among criminals than with regular citizens), although it would be fair to assume it was someone related to So Solid. A dispute comes with Wileys role in this, and whether or not he backed Dizzee. Dizzee seems to claim that Wiley didn't help him in the fight/stabbing, whereas Wiley says that he backed Dizzee in the fight with Megaman, but wasn't present at the stabbing. It seems this incident is the reason of the beef between them. They have both spoken about it on records, of course though there will be some self-censorship on both sides, either to protect their own reputation, or avoid snitching, or getting someone into legal trouble. There is a video on youtube called "wiley vs dizzee (dylans on a hype now)" that contains a track from each on the subject when appearing on Westwoods show. It may not be appropriate to link to that in the article however, it would be debatable to me as to whether or not that would be copyright violation, some may make a fair use argument in the interest of comment and criticism, or along some other similar lines, but it would need a lawyers advice before putting wikipedia at risk. Zbigniewwho (talk) 11:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

BLP

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Some comments

the track 'Pu*syhole' is shown with a *, is this how it is released? Wiki rules (from what i remember) basically say that you shouldn't do this unless that is how the name appears on the official release, i believe its called bowdlerizing, an editor should know more about this rule. Also there is some question (ie citation needed) about the fact that the 'dirty stank' label existed from his early days in the scene, i remember playing the instrumental singles 'go' and 'hoe' (which are not mentioned in the article)at friends houses , and one of these definatly had the 'flys around fæces' logo on it. I also remember being under the impression that these tracks were produced by dizzee.

Hopefully someone who knows more about these things and is a good writer/researcher can look into these things, and consider them. 213.48.1.15 06:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

EDIT:

just did a little research, it looks like some of the info that need verifing comes from the dirteestank myspace, and and interview with blackdown

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html http://www.myspace.com/dirteestankrecordings

the dirtystank myspace page looks to be his 'offfical' myspace, as its linked to from the official site http://www.dizzeerascal.co.uk/

the blackdown site looks fairly reputable, he seems to have good contacts within the scene.

I don't know if these qualify as good enough sources though, i know that wiki generally frowns on blogs/myspaces as sources. I understand that he did a recent interview with 'the observer' which would certainly be consdireded a reasonable source from what i can tell, i don't have access to the interview so i don't know if that will have something. Another place to try and get better sources from would be rewind magazine (i think its known as RWD). I'm pretty new at this wiki stuff, so i'll leave these to a real editor to check out, hope this helps. 213.48.1.15 07:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Fast Rapping "Spitting"?

There is an issue with the term "spitting" being associated with "fast rapping", which is not necessarily the case. In terms of rap vernacular, "spitting" is just another word for "rapping", "rhyming" etc... there are many MCs who use the term "spitting" and do not necessarily have a faster-paced flow (guys like Joe Budden for example). The point being made about him using a more UK Grime-like flow is definitely on point... that should be kept, but the term "spitting" is not a new term for "fast rapping". Khal 14:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they use it that way in England? I deleted it.--P4k 22:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

dizzie rascal is not fast by british standards, its just the music on the radio has been soooo bad for that long we haven't heard real rap. the good stuff AKA NOT 50 cent, more like immortal technique and other intelligent rappers. this is my personal veiw from within the culture, most will not agree but then most are on crack. anon uk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.189.247 (talk) 23:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Politics section

The politics section seems to relate to Grime music in general rather than the subject - are the speeches referred to in relation to Dizzee in particular or simply to the music scene? If the former then it should be spelled out, if the latter then I don't see that this section belongs in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.72.44 (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Dizzee's sidekick

Just saw Dizzee last night supporting The Prodigy and was wondering if anyone could tell me the name of the other MC that performed with him....? Cheers! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Grime artist?

According to the article, Dizzee is "probably" the "grime artist" best known by Americans. I've never even heard of grime. I would venture to say that most Americans have never heard of this person, and the comment of how he is best known in the United States is opinion rather than fact.

Everyone's heard of grime who has lived in England. If you haven't your either stupid or have been living under a rock. He's big over in the US, as he is here. And THATS fact. Get acquantied. Fix up. Look sharp. --Flashflash; 06:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... I ended up on this page via a link on the Ting Tings... I'm in the US, into various music scenes (hiphop dance clubbing every weekend and the occasional rave) and I've never heard the word 'grime' in reference to a musical genre... It's not so much "big in the US" :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.1.204 (talk) 15:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

All of these posts are just your own personal point of views. If he is "big" in the USA than maybe find some data on his album/download sales for the country or possibly reviews by credible US magazines. Just saying that YOU haven't heard of him doesn't mean the other 314 Million of you haven't. Mishka Shaw (talk) 14:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

References 9/10

these references are to the same article from village voice. their usage is identical citing the same quotation from the article in the "Music and Style" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.35.138 (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

why has dizzee rascals album sales bin removed he sold 250,000+ boy in the corner 150,000+ showtime 150,000+ maths + english an evrytime i edit it someone chamges it back —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.103.154 (talk) 13:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Dizzee Rascal's birthday date

Just a quick note to say that his birthday is actually on the 1st of November, 1985. Sorry it was bugging me. Siobhan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.105.135 (talk) 18:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I can tell you for a stone cold fact that his DOB is 18/9/1984. I know him from school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.55.76 (talk) 03:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately Wikipedia can't accept personal knowledge which hasn't been published by reliable sources. See Wikipedia:Verifiability. Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

So you prefer a date of birth which cannot POSSIBLY be correct given his own statements regarding his age? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.72.93 (talk) 03:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

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There you go! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYCfbq13JM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG5LglKTE2Y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.189.82.96 (talk) 12:17, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Isle of White zoo

Please say that bit's true. Please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.141.75 (talk) 22:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Sadly inaccurate

I checked the zoo's website and it states they've had the same owner since 1976. Would be nice if the claim of Dizzee's ownership were sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.197.220 (talk) 20:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Ghanaian/Nigerian descent?

Does Dizzee not have any Afro-Caribbean blood? His surname is "Mills" which doesn't sound African at all and is actually a very common British name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clinton Baptiste (talk • contribs) 01:05, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Dizzee Rascal's REAL birthday date

Actually, his DOB really IS 18/9/1984! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYCfbq13JM&feature=related http://www.google.de/#hl=de&cp=31&gs_id=3&xhr=t&q=dizzee+rascal+2003+18+years+old&pf=p&sclient=psy&site=&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=dizzee+rascal+2003+18+years+old&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=bf531e7dc9381c67&biw=1024&bih=604 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.189.82.96 (talk) 12:30, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou! I'm the person who has been rallying for the DOB change all this time. I must admit I fibbed a bit about knowing him from school, I actually saw that DOB on some official records but can't go into more detail... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.162.96 (talk) 12:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 July 2013

Hi - Im label manager at Dirtee Stank and want to make edits on the relevant pages. Can you assist please ? Raeph1 (talk) 10:58, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

• Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. You can specify the changes you want to make to the article here and they will be reviewed and implemented as appropriate. Though you should support any change requests by third party reliable sources. Keith D (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Birth date, again

So the birth date has been changed in this article various times over the year without citing a source, e.g. this change from "18 September 1984" to "1 October 1985" (made by an IP which has since been blocked) appears to have remained in place for the last 10 months since February 2013.

I have just reduced it to the year only (for which we have a pretty good source in form of the CBC article) and added an HTML comment asking people to cite a source when re-adding a date.

Because out there on the Internet there are various conflicting versions of his birth date, we need a good reference that satisfies the requirements of Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (".. reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy").

For example, it was suggested above to rely on IMDb ("... IMDB lists 01/10/1985 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1476707/bio). I'm inclined to believe IMDB. PoisonedPigeon 14:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)"). But the date listed there changed (from "October 1, 1985" as late as in 2011) to "1984" today.

I would say that this tweet by Dizzee Rascal, plus the YouTube videos linked above, make the September 18 date more likely, at least as the one that Dylan Mills publicly endorses himself. But as a reference to be cited in this article, they are not sufficient. See also WP:BLP.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 11:09, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi HackneyE8, this edit did not actually cite a source for the 1 November 1985 date. Which article by The Guardian stated that? (In case you meant this page: http://www.theguardian.com/music/dizzeerascal - that's not a reliable source; it says that it user-generated text from last.fm, quite possibly derived from an earlier version of this Wikipedia article.)

Regards, HaeB (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok look [1]

He has just said his exact date of birth. I'm the same guy who has been pushing for the 18 September 1984 date of birth from the start. Can we please change this once and for all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.224.129.73 (talk) 10:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Birthday for the umpteenth time

Yes, I know that using Twitter as a source is a bit weird, but I hope that we can close the issue once and for all now:

• Dizzee Rascal, 18 Sep 2012: Thank you for all your birthday messages!
• Dizzee Rascal, 18 Sep 2013: It's my Birthday bitches!!!! Thank you for all your messages and to my fans thanks for the support!…
• Dizzee Rascal, 1 Oct 2014: Thanks for all the birthday shouts. My birthday was sept 18th I turned 30 but I'm happy to except any money u wanna send! Serious lol ;-)

I guess that should be enough evidence that Dizzee's day of birth was the 18th of September 1984. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 12:45, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me. A primary source can be used for noncontroversial content like this, and since it's a primary source delivered to his followers, WP:BLPPRIVACY shouldn't be an issue. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 12:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Since no objection has been raised, I'd like to change the article accordingly. How would you source the information? --Mai-Sachme (talk) 14:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

I'd use Template:Cite tweet. Should be a fairly painless process. :) <ref>{{cite tweet|user=dizzeerascal |number=517249697866850304...</ref> The "My birthday was sept 18th I turned 30" tweet seems the most useful, but you can always add another if you feel like it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:24, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Fine, thanks! --Mai-Sachme (talk) 16:05, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Pagans EP

Surprised there’s no mention of Dizzee’s most recent EP on here and his discography article. I don’t have the time to update this article alone, finding all the appropriate references to make another complete section for the EP, but I’m just putting this out here. --Dotdapple (talk) 23:15, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

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Difference between nationality and ethnicity

English is an ethnicity whereas British refers to an individuals nationality these are facts, I have changed this because he is British and not English. Question4477 (talk) 23:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

 No it doesnt. There is no such soveriegn nation as 'Britain', "Britain" is a geographical location, the British Isles, which consist of for NATIONS, England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The citizens of those nations are the Scottish, Welsh, Irish and English.  Four nationalities.  As an Englishman I found this attempt to cancel my country, my culture, my traditions and my history,  and my nationality as RACIST.   The Iron Age race that was the Britons, from where the word comes from, died out 2000 years ago.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.237.131.5 (talk) 19:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)