Talk:Domestication

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Effects on society section[edit]

The effects of domestication on society section reads a bit weird and propagandistic to me? I also was under the impression that Guns Germs and Steel was not a good source for sociological information at large. The article on the book includes sources specifically criticizing the section of his book we are citing here.

the next section on diversity was also weird, not really talking about domestication specifically very much at all, though I think I've added some useful info & removed much of the most bad parts of the text. Perhaps One Editor (talk) 00:47, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; the diversity subsection still reads like student assignment accretion, and is way too long for this context, so I'll cut it down a bit. A section which factually describes multiple opposing viewpoints doesn't fit easily into any known definition of propaganda. Diamond is a reliably published source, but given that later editions indeed retract the claims (and domestication certainly doesn't equate to agriculture), we can lose his bit now, and lead in to say these are diverse views. I'll tweak the section heading, too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Definitions[edit]

This article makes it seem as if the definition of domestication was done, settled and neatly defined after Zeder's definition, which isn't really true. The definition doesn't account for similar relationships existing outside of humanity, such as fungiculture in termites and ants. Reality is that the term is still pretty ill defined in scientific literature, and although attempts are being made to properly define it, different scientific disciplines still define it in different ways. I was planning to add a little sentence myself and call it done, but now I'm seeing that Purugganan 2022, a source addressing these issues, is used to back up the definition it criticizes. Not sure what do now, as I'm new to this editing, but this seems wrong! Lord Lemonpie (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Best would be to add something from Purugganan. Why not draft a short paragraph here on this talk page? Chiswick Chap (talk) 02:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]