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This page was proposed for deletion by 2604:2000:e016:a700:8cd4:2f0d:485:7e0d (talk · contribs) on 9 January 2017 with the comment:
Not notable. Tagged for notability since 2012.
It was contested by Grand'mere Eugene (talk · contribs) on 2017-01-09 with the comment:
Article improved with additional content and citations

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Summary of September 2010 Edits[edit]

This page has been BLP-tagged for almost 2 years. I've not been able to find any real WP:RS, only her own homepage, which I've added as a minimal source. Even this is still far short of proper documentation. It only confirms that she works at Ames. Everything else in the article for which there's no documentation has been resected, except the assertion that she's an astronomer, for which I found a few papers from the early 90s that are now listed. Overall, I think this person falls far short of the WP notability criteria: her current job is not notable per se and her past scientific output has not shown significant impact (WoS h-index = 5). Respectfully, Agricola44 (talk) 14:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Resource: database of astronomy publications[edit]

SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS) links to query results for Daou's publications. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:39, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Serious promotion going on here[edit]

There is serious promotion going on here. For example -- check this sentence in the text, and the lack of support for it in the "supporting" ref: "Daou is known at NASA Headquarters in Washington, D.C., as an astronomer who is knowledgeable in grant proposals.".--2604:2000:E016:A700:1941:7A21:225A:B441 (talk) 06:05, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work clearing out articles that do not meet WP:N standards via PROD. I do not know the subject of this article, but if I did, I would have declared a COI as I have in past articles for even a potential conflict of interest, for example, here, and here and here. I also have declared on my user page the institutions with which I have been affiliated, in the interest of transparency. I saw the PROD for the Doris Daou article on the alert page for articles about women scientists, and did several hours of research to find articles that could support her notability.

I agree that the sentence you have quoted above is not entirely supported by the article cited, and upon reflection, it does sound promotional. The original sentence, ""Today Daou is best known as an expert in grant proposals and as the creator and producer of the Ask an Astronomer video podcast, though she continues to publish in science journals" was present in the version at its creation. I revised the sentence several times, breaking it apart and adding citations, and should have revised it entirely. ~~I suggest the current version should be~~ I have replaced that version with, "Daou is an astronomer at NASA headquarters in Wasnington, D.C." The ~~citation~~ cited source does support that fact: " 'Touch the Invisible Sky' was written by astronomy educator and accessibility specialist Noreen Grice of You Can Do Astronomy LLC and the Museum of Science, Boston, with authors Simon Steel, an astronomer with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., and Doris Daou, an astronomer at NASA Headquarters, Washington." Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]