Talk:Dunland

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Hill or brown ?[edit]

I think Dunland and Dunlendings don't refer to hills. That is, I think they don't come from OE. dún "down, moor, height, hill, mountain", but rather from OE. dunn "dun, dingy brown, bark-colored". See Appendix F of the Lord of the Rings :

"Dunland and Dunlending are the names that the Rohirrim gave to them, because they were swarthy and dark-haired; there is thus no connexion between the word dunn in these names and the Grey-elven word Dûn 'west'." Faenglor 12:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced "Dunland means "Hill Land" in the language of neighbouring Rohan, whose people named it after arriving in nearby Calenardhon in the later Third Age." by "Dunland and Dunlendings are names given by the Rohirrim after these people, because of their being swarthy and dark-haired (Appendix F to the Lord of the Rings). The Old English (which represents Rohirric in the novel) word dunn means "brown"."Faenglor (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Descended from House of Haleth?[edit]

Where is it EVER said they were descended from the House of Haleth?--130.64.137.195 06:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not in LotR, but in Unfinished Tales (already in the article) Uthanc 06:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their point of view[edit]

I read somewhere that Tolkien intended to write a history of Middle Earth from the Dunlending point of view, but that either he never came to do so, or never published it. Is that true and if so, does anyone know more about it? Vleermuis 14:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dunlendings and Druedain related? Huh?[edit]

The Haladin of the Ered Nimrais were the ancestors of the Drúedain... Where in any of the books is that attested? In fact, as I recall in UT, it's directly contradicted. --Sephiroth9611 14:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The Drúedain already lived, as a separate people, in the First Age, just like in the later Ages. They lives among the Haladin, at the most. As far as I know, there is no evidence whatsoever that the Drúedain would have been Haladin. In fact, I believe this to be completely wrong, as Tolkien explicity talks about them as different people. I think this should be removed. By the way, no reference to this can be found at the Drúedain page.

Therefore, I am replacing : "The Haladin of the Ered Nimrais were the ancestors of the Drúedain and the Haladin of the Gwathló were the ancestors of the Dunlendings. This is further evidenced by the close geographical link between the Dunlendings and the Drúedain who historically had always lived in close proximity." by "In the First Age, the Drúedain lived among them and shared close relationship, more than with any other race of men." to keep the relationship with the Drúedain there.Faenglor (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]