Talk:EMD GP7

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What is the true count of GP7 production. I have added the verified original owners list several times and get the figure 2729 GP7s plus 5 GP7Bs = 2734. There is also the mention of two export GP7s on Larry Russell's GM Export page. I am trying to find out if these were new or used units. --SSW9389 (talk) 16:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New York Central subsidiary company GP7s: Pittsburg & Lake Erie #5676-5685; 5713-5737; Peoria & Eastern #5612-5625. --SSW9389 (talk) 17:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Railroad sudsidiary company GP7s: Cincinnati, New Orleans & Texas Pacific #6200-6205; 6240-6244; Alabama Great Southern 6540-6544; Georgia Southern & Florida 8210-8213. --SSW9389 (talk) 17:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missouri Pacific subsidiary company GP7s: International Great Northern 4121-4123; 4153-4158; 4197-4202; 4254-4255; 4287-4297; 4325; St. Louis Brownsville & Mexico 4116-4120; 4164-4165; 4203-4207; 4249-4251; 4252-4253; 4284-4286; 4298; 4323-4324. --SSW9389 (talk) 17:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I heard from A J Kristopans that the two export GP7s on Larry Russell's GM Export page going to Cuba and Russia were used U S Army locomotives and not new units. --SSW9389 (talk) 19:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further email from A J Kristopans reveals that only one GP7 was involved in Cuba and later went to Russia. "U S Army GP7 #1833 to USAEC 5003 (Portsmouth OH), to Nickel Processing Co in Cuba (associated with US atomic energy program?? Still owned by USAEC while in Cuba???), possibly later to Russia?" --SSW9389 (talk) 13:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is my explanation of why the production count does not match DSGII: There are five GP7s on A J Kristopan's EMD Serial number page that reused previous serial numbers: B&O 6405, CRI&P 1308 (2nd), L&N 501 (2nd) and 502 (2nd), and SLSF 615 (2nd). The other weird thing is that CN 4824 is carried as a GP7 on A J Kristopans GMDD serial number page and it was built in October 1958! --SSW9389 (talk) 12:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

infobox, ref[edit]

Dorin, Patrick C. (1972). Chicago and North Western Power. Superior Publishing. pp. 106–107. ISBN 0-87564-715-4. has C&NWRy drawings and spec sheets for #1557, that’s where added and changed info comes from. Original length, weight, and T.E. replaced so that all specs come from same loco. Neither ref try is quite right, maybe someone else can do better. Sammy D III (talk) 18:36, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody reads these. Sammy D III (talk) 21:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The strange case of CN 4824[edit]

Six EMD F3s were exported to Canada in May 1948. These were the two ABA sets of order E958 shipped on May 28, 1948 numbered 9000-9005. The booster units were the 9001 and 9004. CN F3A 9005 was wrecked at South Junction, Ontario on May 17, 1958 and was sent to the GMD plant at London, Ontario. GMD built a general purpose unit for CN on order #A-1714 that used parts of the wrecked F3A. The unit resembled a phase 3 GP9 like all the other GP9s built at that time. The unit was shipped in October 1958. The unit was numbered 4824 to take the roster slot just after the CN's 24 GP7s 4800-4823. The strange part of this case is how this unit is classified by diesel historians. You can find it listed as a GP7, GP7M, and GP7R. The GMD production records show it as a GP9. At this point CN 4824 is listed on the GP7 page. The Diesel Spotter's Guide includes CN 4824 as a GP 7. It is the 112th GMD GP7, built in October 1958. --SSW9389 (talk) 11:47, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]