Talk:Edmund Rubbra

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Twelve-tone technique[edit]

(Which is the proper article, by the way- avoid redirects!)

Removed a polemical sentence. There are works - mostly in his shelf drawer to my knowledge, including the discarded piano concerto opus 30 I think? - in which Rubbra approached and/or used the twelve-tone technique in one way or another; and he was one of many composers who "refused to use it". How this fit in with Glock's tenure at the BBC, with whom it was or was not fashionable, and other matters- indeed, calling it fashionable is something that requires considerable explanation and should not be done at the beginning of an encyclopedia at -all-, it's rather an in-joke; fashionable among composers perhaps (I like many works composed written using the technique, and am at most an ex-composer) but not (yet?) the general public (some works by Schoenberg, Webern and Berg work very well, and I will say because of good use of the technique- I am not making a polemical anti-serial case here, I am saying that claiming it was fashionable immediately announces "I'm talking to my own audience, because it certainly wasn't fashionable among people you knew, was it?" to most readers... which is rather anti-Wikipedia right there...) - (edit to finish the sentence *g*) ... how that fits in with Glock, composer culture in the 20th century, ...- much too large a topic.

Getting back to Rubbra: he did not refuse to be diverted apparently- he tried the method, and decided not to use it later. That's a diversion and a decision. A small difference and not worthy of an opening paragiraffe distinction; instead, I think, worthy of opening paragraph -omission-, making Rubbra someone who cannot be brought in into the Stubborn Won't Even Taste the Green Eggs and Ham Army... - hence, my deletion. Schissel | Sound the Note! 20:00, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

Can someone please upload a suitable photo of this important (but shamefully neglected) composer? John Hamilton (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nine months later and still no photo. A search on Google provides several suitable images; I'd upload one of these if I understood which would pass the Wikipedia criteria. Perhaps someone with more Wiki-experience would do so? John Hamilton (talk) 10:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nine YEARS later and still no photo. I refer to my comments of 2008 and 2009. Surely someone better versed than I am in the technicalities of Wiki could spare a little time to upload a photo or two of Edmund Rubbra? John Hamilton (talk) 00:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would second the need for a photo as well.

I also think the whole article is way too detailed, informal add chatty - I think it needs to be more academic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.228.253 (talk) 17:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Bold text[reply]

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The army trio may have continued to meet, but by the time of the 1952 Broadhurst Gardens sessions for Decca at which Rubbra's First Piano Trio was recorded, the violinist was Erich Gruenberg, as he was when I heard them in (I think) 1956 in the Mozart E major and Brahms C major trios in Oxford, around the time of the Piano Concerto and the early performances of the Sixth Symphony.Delahays (talk) 00:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]