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Donations for liver transplant on Twitter[edit]
Can this be true? It looks like a hoax. Currently there is one, rather poor, source. If it was an impersonator, I guess it might still be notable, if there was wider media coverage. But we have no source for an impersonator. So perhaps it's safer to just remove it. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- That is Furlong's official Twitter account. He used to sell memorabilia via the site. (165.120.240.74 (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2016 (UTC))
- I see. Any source to support that claim? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:18, 20 May 2016 (UTC) Purely by coincidence I see that another BT account locating to Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk was blocked for a week, at 18.31 tonight, by User:Favonian, as being an IP sock of banned User:HarveyCarter. Odd that, isn't it?
- @Martinevans123: Indeed. Though we should be grateful that he gives Churchill, Ike et al. a break, I have chosen to invoke WP:BMB. Favonian (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Adminship can be such a trial at times, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:47, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, the good old days! Favonian (talk) 20:50, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- I can never remember Leonard Sachs being quite so devious? Amazing what you can find rambling around Bury St. Eds. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, the good old days! Favonian (talk) 20:50, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Adminship can be such a trial at times, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:47, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Martinevans123: Indeed. Though we should be grateful that he gives Churchill, Ike et al. a break, I have chosen to invoke WP:BMB. Favonian (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- I see. Any source to support that claim? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:18, 20 May 2016 (UTC) Purely by coincidence I see that another BT account locating to Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk was blocked for a week, at 18.31 tonight, by User:Favonian, as being an IP sock of banned User:HarveyCarter. Odd that, isn't it?
"the reductionists"[edit]
let's talk about all the sourced, relevant, FACTUAL material being CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY being removed from this blp, by certain editors?
once i've got the diffs all listed, i'll even make it an rfc, so we can all discuss it properly :)
Lx 121 (talk) 07:15, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
here's a start, but it is going to be very long list, going back a number of years
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=743960807&oldid=740538364
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=708485281&oldid=708480520
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=708446573&oldid=708437379
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=703972914&oldid=703955371
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=703953274&oldid=703952572
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=703952056&oldid=703951382
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=703950794&oldid=703950316
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=702239465&oldid=702239139
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=702239139&oldid=702236221
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=702236221&oldid=702235833
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=702235833&oldid=702235785
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=702235785&oldid=697048947
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691826610&oldid=691826553
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691826553&oldid=691808663
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691800891&oldid=691800749
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691800699&oldid=691800679
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691800679&oldid=691800239
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569990&oldid=691569527
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569527&oldid=691569433
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569433&oldid=691569286
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569286&oldid=691569227
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569227&oldid=691569194
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569194&oldid=691569121
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691569121&oldid=691568939
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=691568939&oldid=691499872
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=690754445&oldid=690719930
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=690458279&oldid=690457534
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=690457534&oldid=690456717
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=690456717&oldid=690456170
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=690455212&oldid=690400409
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=690358183&oldid=690331324
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=687808644&oldid=685739446
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=682154035&oldid=682153662
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=682153662&oldid=682153028
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=682153028&oldid=682152877
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=682152877&oldid=681717283
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=669116159&oldid=669115896
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=627070879&oldid=626932645
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=626433033&oldid=626379041
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=585793886&oldid=585793225
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=585793225&oldid=585792077
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=585791822&oldid=585791619
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=585674193&oldid=585341119
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=569841805&oldid=568183977
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=567953502&oldid=567937875
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=565702556&oldid=565701830
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=564798536&oldid=564797304
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=564792932&oldid=564792506
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=564780822&oldid=564779288
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=564739584&oldid=564668944
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=564248962&oldid=564248420
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=564248420&oldid=564059551
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Furlong&diff=561367679&oldid=561267654
that's going back to mid 2013; done for now, outof time, but will follow the page history all the way back.
basically, the bulk of these "removals" have been by a handful of editors; mainly 2 that are currently active, & who have been "tag-teaming" to win disputes & run out the clock on 3r for any one user opposing them.
& nearly all of the material being repeatedly removed by them "just so happens to be" unflattering to the subject of the biography.
& just to be clear:
NONE OF THESE ITEMS ARE IN SERIOUS "FACTUAL DISPUTE"
all of these are things that are on the public record, & were widely reported in relevant media sources @ the time; & would be well-know to ANYONE moderately well-informed about the public history of the subject-person.
the arguements being used by these editors on "validity of sources" are specious & INCONSISTENT; most items were reported in multiple sources, & the "judgements" being made on the validity of those sources, by these editors, are not based on wp or any sort of valid & consistent reasoning. endless "rs" disputes are being used as a tactic, to justify removing "undesirable" material; & the claims being made in those disputes are both inconstistent & sometimes contradictory.
busy now, will deal with the rfc & the rest of the diffs, the next time i am back on here.
Lx 121 (talk) 08:29, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- It's a BLP. WP:BLP "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment. This policy applies to any living person mentioned in a BLP, whether or not that person is the subject of the article, and to material about living persons in other articles and on other pages, including talk pages.[b] The burden of evidence rests with the editor who adds or restores material".
- Actors careers have ups and downs and often tail off as they get middle aged, and his BLP cannot say Furlong has not kept appearing in "significant roles" or in big budget or high profile movies (a level most actors never get close to even once) because of substance abuse and legal troubles. We don't know that is true, so we cannot state it as such in a BLP. Overagainst (talk) 21:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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