Talk:Elephant & Castle tube station

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Lift descending to the platform or the LEVEL of the platform?[edit]

Pinging: DavidCane, Redrose64, Alarics, Dubmill, Ritchie333

We need to have a consensus on whether to state that the lift descends to the level of the platform or to the platform itself as I've seen numerous edits on this where the words keep on changing. Vincent60030 (talk) 04:52, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think 'to the platform' would be understood by most people to mean on the same level as the platform, not necessarily right on the platform but adjacent to it. On the other hand 'to the level of the platform' is at first glance more precise. But, thinking about it, does that wording introduce doubt as to how far away from the platform it is? For example, technically it could be on the same level but some distance away down a passage. I don't actually know how close the lift in question is to the platform. At Brixton there's a lift which is not technically on the platform but is just a few feet from it. Dubmill (talk) 07:39, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The lifts in the E&C Northern line building descend to a short passage leading to a circulating area from which passengers have to walk some distance (maybe 20 yards) along a further curved tunnel to reach the southbound platform. So on emerging from the lift one has no sense at all of having reached the platform itself or being adjacent to it. So we should say "descends to the level of the platform". -- Alarics (talk) 08:36, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone with "The southern building has lifts from street level to the southbound Northern line" - what do people think of that? You definitely want to avoid saying "level" twice in close succession. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But then it sounds as if there are some other lifts that go to the northbound platform. The same lifts go to both, but for the northbound platform you have to go up and down some steps. Can we say something like "The southern building has two lifts. Step-free access is provided to the southbound Northern line platform."? (I must say though that the whole step-free thing seems not worth mentioning as the station now stands: if you need step-free access how are you going to make your return journey?) -- Alarics (talk) 13:46, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Alarics: It is worth mentioning (see other articles) plus you could make your northbound return journey by going to London Bridge and then change for a southbound train to E&C. ;) Vincent60030 (talk) 13:53, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to also throw into the mix that the latest tube map does not list E&C as a station with step-free access at all, so in that respect I think Alarics' suggestion to just take out altogether is probably the way to go. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait for the others to respond. ;) Vincent60030 (talk) 15:19, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I quite like the current wording ('The southern building has lifts from street level down to the level of the southbound Northern line platform, the only step-free platform at the station'). It's effectively saying that there is no overall step-free access, but with the additional detail that there is one platform with step-free access. I don't find the repetition of the word 'level' problematic in this case. Dubmill (talk) 11:55, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dubmill: Yep, me too. Passed GA - YAY! Vincent60030 (talk) 11:14, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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