Talk:Ella Stewart Udall

Sources and images

Some potential sources and images for expanding the page.

• Profile on At the Pulpit companion website and her letter with Zina D. H. Young
• Profile in Pioneer Women of Arizona 2nd edition
• Ellsworth, Maria S., ed. (1992). Mormon Odyssey: The Story of Ida Hunt Udall, Plural Wife. Urbana: University of Illinois Press. ISBN 9780252018756.
• New Perspectives on the West, PBS
• Mark E. Miller, "St. Johns's Saints," Journal of Mormon History
• Thomas G. Smith, Stewart L. Udall: Steward of the Land (Albuquerque : University of New Mexico Press, 2017), 5–10
• Margery Boyden, "David King Udall and Ella Stewart Udall, A Love Story Intertwined with Their Resolve to 'Seek First the Kingdom of God,'" Scudder Family Historical & Biographical Journal 3, no. 3 (Summ/Fall 2021).

And another image on Wikimedia commons:

• A photograph of Udall later in life

P-Makoto (talk) 06:29, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 23:15, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

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Ella Stewart in 1875

• ... that in 1871, sixteen-year-old Ella Stewart (pictured) was the first telegraph operator in Arizona Territory? Source: "Eliza Luella Stewart, the first telegraph operator at the Pipe Spring office, which opened in 1871, was only 16 years old" (National Park Service, "Virtual Tour - Telegraph Room", Pipe Spring National Monument, April 2020); she [Ella Stewart] had operated the Deseret Telegraph Line out of Kanab and had worked for a time at Pipe Springs, Arizona, earning the honor of being Arizona's first telegraph operator" (Maria S. Ellsworth, Mormon Odyssey: The Story of Ida Hunt Udall, Plural Wife, 1992, p.43).
  • ALT1: ... that in 1871, sixteen-year-old Ella Stewart (pictured) was the first telegraph operator at the Deseret Telegraph Company's office in Pipe Spring? Source: Identical to sources of ALT0
  • ALT2: ... that Ella Stewart Udall (pictured) spent a wedding night with her husband's second wife? Source: "her [Ida Hunt Udall's] description of sharing her wedding night with her sister wife [Ella Stewart Udall]" (Genevieve J. Long, "Laboring in the Desert: The Letters and Diaries of Narcissa Prentiss Whitman and Ida Hunt Udall", PhD diss., 2002, p. 298).
  • ALT3: ... that when John Wesley Powell was on his second Grand Canyon expedition, teenage telegraphist Ella Stewart (pictured) relayed his reports to Washington, D.C.? Source: "During the time of Major Powell’s expeditions to the Grand Canyon, she telegraphed his reports from the Kanab office to the Government in Washington, D. C." (Roberta Flake Clayton, Pioneer Women of Arizona 2nd ed., 739). It had to have been Powell's second expedition because Stewart became a telegraphist 1870–1871.
  • ALT4: ... that Ella Stewart Udall (pictured) relayed her husband's letters to his semi-secret second wife? Source: "during the Underground years of 1884-86, [Ida Hunt] Udall received letters from her husband through his first wife [Ella Stewart Udall], the only one to whom he could write without fear of revealing Ida's identity and whereabouts" (Genevieve J. Long, "Laboring in the Desert: The Letters and Diaries of Narcissa Prentiss Whitman and Ida Hunt Udall", PhD diss., 2002, pp. 240–241).
  • ALT5: ... that in 1870, Brigham Young recruited fifteen-year-old Ella Stewart (pictured) to become a telegraph operator for the Deseret Telegraph Company? Source: "In the Spring of 1870... President Young requested that one of the girls stay at Toquerville en route to Kanab to study telegraphy... Ella was left in Toquerville with Sarah Ann Spilsbury as her teacher" (Roberta Flake Clayton, Pioneer Women of Arizona 2nd ed., 739) plus sources in ALT0
  • Reviewed: This is my fifth ever DYK nomination.
  • Comment: Being certain about "firsts" can be dicey, so I brainstormed a bunch of hooks in case you (reviewer) feel uncertain about the first two. Also, this page's subject is associated with Ida Hunt Udall whose DYK is in the staging area, so to whoever assembles the preparation area/queue, if possible avoid posting them on consecutive days or what otherwise feels too close together. Thanks!

5x expanded by P-Makoto (talk). Self-nominated at 07:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @P-Makoto: Good article. Will AGF on the offline sources. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:32, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

• @P-Makoto: where could I find ALT4 in the text of the article? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 03:24, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
  • @Theleekycauldron: See the last sentence of the second paragraph under the "Plural marriage" subheading: "During this time, David and Ida only communicated through Ella Udall, who maintained epistolary correspondence with Ida under the false pretense of Ida being David's sister." P-Makoto (talk) 03:42, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Checks out, thanks :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 04:21, 30 November 2022 (UTC)