Talk:Emma Reaney

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Review: September 5, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Emma Reaney appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 August 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Emma Reaney is the only Notre Dame Fighting Irish swimmer to win an NCAA championship?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TheAafi (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Emma Reaney (pictured) is the only Notre Dame Fighting Irish swimmer to win an NCAA championship? Source: https://und.com/roster/emma-reaney/
- ALT1: ... that Emma Reaney (pictured) is the only Notre Dame Fighting Irish athlete to be an American recordholder while a student? Source: https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/emma-reaney-takes-us-behind-scenes-world-short-course-championships-video/
This picture was just added to her article and is CC. Please evaluate this as a possible lead hook.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/When Jews Were Funny

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 14:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Y article is long enough (6918 characters), new enough (created 9 June, nominated 11 June), and article is within policy
? Both of the hooks proposed say that Reaney is the "only" swimmer to achieve the feats listed. However, [1] says she was the first to win NCAA Championship, and [2] says she was first student to have an American record. This doesn't prove that she's the only one to do it (as someone could have also achieved the feat between 2014 and 2022).
Y QPQ done
TonyTheTiger The article itself is fine, but need a clarification on the hooks (first vs only). Joseph2302 (talk) 16:57, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you questioning both hooks?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding the first hook, Page 12 of the "2019 ACC Women's Swimming & Diving Records", which is currently one of the sources in the article confirms that asof (including) 2019 this was true. 2020 NCAA championships were cancelled. No Notre Dame athletes won in 2021 Championships or 2022 championships.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:01, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - I just realized that I also need to show that no male swimmer won in 2021 or 2022.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know how to verify the currency of the other hook even if I limited it to NCAA contested events.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:03, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: Pinging to help move this along. Can we get the material needed to prove ALT0 is still valid while striking ALT1? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:39, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Above, I thought I showed ALT0 is valid.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302: Can this be approved or are there still concerns? Z1720 (talk) 01:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The photo quality does not seem to be suitable for the main page. --Mhhossein ^talk 04:49, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. I don't see any remaining issues for me to address.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A new reviewer is needed. Z1720 (talk) 14:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize, I realize that I posted enough content here to prove she is still the only NCAA champ without putting enough in the article. I have corrected that.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The rest of the original review stands. I do not see another ND entry in the NCAA Champions lists (refs 36/37) besides Reaney, so I approve ALT0. ALT1 checks out. The hook image is freely licensed—a frame from a CC-BY video—but of low quality and not my personal favorite. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:19, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

200 IM ACC record[edit]

I am unable to figure out who broke Reaney's 200 IM ACC record. I can see that as of 12/2/2016 Kaitlyn Jones of UVA posted a 1:54.05 (per 2019 record book and 12/6/16 Swimmer of the week press release).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The closest I could get to solving this issue was 2016 ACC meet summary.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:03, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Emma Reaney/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 14:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image is appropriately tagged; sources are reliable.

"As of 2021, Reaney still held 4 Notre Dame swimming event records." Can this be updated for 2022?
- That source was the annual swimming and diving record book which was produced in February 2022. I would imagine we have to wait until February 2023 for an update.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- However, it is unlikely that any school records were broken in the 2021-22 season since the search result "Emma Reaney's school record" does not lead us to any of these records having been broken.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:19, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In the early life section we say she was 73rd of 110 in the 2008 IM trial; later we say she was 73rd of 106.
- The later one seems to be official. I have revised the article.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:09, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those are the only issues. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:26, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source issue[edit]

TonyTheTiger, I realized after the GA review that I should have done some spotchecks during the review. I checked several; most were OK but I found a couple of problems:

FN 43 cites "On December 5, 2014, Reaney teamed with Felicia Lee, Claire Donahue, Amanda Weir (prelims), and Natalie Coughlin, to set an american record in the 2014 FINA World Swimming Championships (25 m) – Women's 4 × 50 metre medley relay with their silver medal finish in 1:44.92." The source, here, doesn't give most of those details.
FN 45 cites "She swam in the preliminary heats for 400m Medley relay team that won the bronze medal on the same day." The source is a FINA page with three tabs; she's listed as competing in the event, but how do you know it was in the heats?

Can you fix these? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:59, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TonyTheTiger, as I don't have other sources I can't fix these, so if you don't have a way to add other sources I'll just have to cut this material, which would be a pity. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:17, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've cut these sentences. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]