Talk:Ensemble coding

A fact from Ensemble coding appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 January 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that ensemble coding is the ability to see the average or variance of a group of objects?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ensemble Coding.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:00, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that ensemble coding demonstrates/depicts that people have the ability to accurately encode ensembles of objects?~~ Alt NP, Goodale B, Lick DJ, Johnson KL (March 2019). "Threat in the Company of Men: Ensemble Perception and Threat Evaluations of Groups Varying in Sex Ratio". Social Psychological and Personality Science. 10 (2): 152–159. doi:10.1177/1948550617731498.
- ALT1:... that ensemble coding is the ability to see the average or variance of a group of objects? Alvarez GA (March 2011). "Representing multiple objects as an ensemble enhances visual cognition". Trends in Cognitive Sciences. 15 (3): 122–31. doi:10.1016/j.tics.2011.01.003. PMID 21292539.

Created/expanded by Grace.Gillespie (talk). Self-nominated at 07:26, 9 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]

@Grace.Gillespie: No hook has been written in this nomination so far. Do you need any assistance through the process? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:21, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To other editors: For reference, it appears that the article that's being nominated here is Ensemble coding. That article was created in the nominator's userspace in October and moved to mainspace on November 25, which is about two weeks before the nomination date of December 9. However, as the nominator is new to DYK and Wikipedia as a whole, I'd be willing to support the newness requirement being waived at this time. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:21, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: the nominator last edited on December 9 and appears to have disappeared. The course they are taking ends on December 17. Yoninah (talk) 23:10, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should the nomination be closed then, or can we ask someone else to adopt the nomination? Pinging ~~Maury Markowitz for input as they're the resident expert on computer-related DYKs, as well as~~ Ian (Wiki Ed) who had welcomed the nominator. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be appropriate to close it. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense in that case. Since the article has been moved from Ensemble Coding to Ensemble coding, I have adjusted this page accordingly in case the nomination is ultimately pursued. Since on December 16 Everyone should have finished all of the work they'll do on Wikipedia, and be ready for grading, we don't have long to wait. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:12, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ian (Wiki Ed): Have you tried getting in touch with the course's instructor? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:39, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: normally I would, because he's really good about that kind of thing, but looking at the syllabus, today was the last day of class, and it's always difficult to track students down over break. I do think that Abishe's option is a good one. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 04:18, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just reviewed the article and the article is nicely written and well sourced. But I think the author was not familiar with the hooks and how to nominate here. I just mentioned a hook and an alternative hook on behalf of that particular user. I have nominated articles here so I just added hooks to make things easy for the admins. If I am mistaken with the hooks ping me and I just done my best. Regards. Abishe (talk) 04:02, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed, now that hooks have been supplied. Note that other nominations from this class have been allowed with the same degree of lateness in nominating. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:26, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
New enough, long enough. No QPQ needed. Sourced. Passes earwig. I prefer Alt1. --evrik ^(talk) 05:18, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik:@Abishe: the ALT1 hook is taken from the first line of the article. There is no inline cite. Yoninah (talk) 13:28, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Actually, I took it from this line in the body, "It has been demonstrated that individuals have the ability quickly and accurately encode ensembles of objects, like leaves on a tree, and gather summary statistical information (like the mean and variance) from groups of stimuli," which was sourced. --evrik ^(talk) 02:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Restoring your tick. Yoninah (talk) 23:55, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

I made a few grammatical edits and tried to improve readability throughout the article. There was a sentence that could use some help but I wanted to read the source first before making any drastic changes.Kkrupp (talk) 22:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate wording[edit]

The social vision and ensemble coding section contains inaccurate wording, which actually stems from the source. "Additional research has uncovered that in as little as 75 milliseconds, participants are able to derive the average sex ratio of an ensemble of faces"

This is not correct, as processing of this dimension almost definitely occurred after this time period, as the processing of face information continues after a brief presentation. In that study the 75ms face presentation was followed by a 125ms blank screen which did not mask ongoing processing. It is thus inaccurate to state that this information was processed within 75ms, only that a brief presentation allowed for such processing to occur. It's the same principle as masked priming in words, semantic or orthographic processing does not occur before 100ms yet you can get behavioural effects from primes presented for 50ms. So, the wording is inaccurate and I recommend altering it to.134.21.35.120 (talk) 09:34, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]