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Perhaps the links of the host countries should go to the respective countries instead of the football teams - especially ones that no longer exist such as the Kingdom of Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.226.14 (talk) 16:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I was thinking, should this page include a list of the how each hosts did in their tournament? (I don't mean full results, just 'Winner', 'Third Place' etc.) I think it's relevant and it would be interesting, but I wasn't sure if it should be put here. Happyjoe5 18:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The FIFA World Cup article lists all the tournaments, their winners, runners up, and third and fourth finalists. So basically no, it would just be duplicating information. Philc TECI 19:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Fair enough, just thought I'd ask. Thanks. Happyjoe5 15:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joint bidding not allowed[edit]

I hope that someone can give some clarification to why this is not allowed...and how that works. For example Tunisia and Libyas bid was not allowed as a joint bid but other nations have co-hosted the championship in the past. Thanks 79.102.254.222 (talk) 04:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's in the 2002 seaction. But i wonder, if it has been disallowed since then in the regulatiuons as mentioned in the article. Have those been changed again, as Spain and Portugar bid on 2018, as did Begium and Netherlands? -Koppapa (talk) 13:00, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1974 Fifa Exco[edit]

The FIFA Exco on 9/6/74 that ratified Colombia as 1986 hosts wasn't held in Stockholm, it was in Germany cause all delegates were gathered there for the World Cup about to start the following day. I think the city was Frankfurt, but I will check and then edit.

According to FIFA themselves, they met in Stockholm in 1974 (PDF). It is not too much of a stretch to think that FIFA executives had a stop over in Stockholm before proceeding to Germany for the start of the World Cup (it's no transatlantic journey!). Ian Manka Talk to me! 05:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zurich[edit]

Is it really necessary to say that the vote for the host nation was performed in Zurich for the umpteenth consecutive time every time? --Millbrooky 16:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, when I wrote the article, I was just looking for ways to increase the length of the article -- something just didn't look right with having just a few words about where it was held. So I introduced the consecutivity of the whole thing to increase the length of each host decision. If it doesn't look right, go ahead and change it (it's the Wiki way!). Ian Manka Talk to me! 17:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Germany[edit]

Were the German bids made in 1962, 1966, 1974, and 1982 made by the BRD or the DDR? Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/National teams/Referencing templates has no template for a DDR team - did one exist? --24.20.144.150 21:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To answer my own question, it doesn't appear that the DDR had any notable success in international football during its existence. --24.20.144.150 22:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uruguay 2030[edit]

Why the project from Uruguay to host the 100 years old FIFA World Cup is not mentioned? It has already an wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay_2030 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.138.203.114 (talk) 21:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Map Suggestion[edit]

If I knew how to do it, I would - I think it would be good to color co-hosts differently on the map. Xorthan (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


It would make the map look really messy especially if Japan,South Korea or Spain host the championship in 2018 and 2022.

Citations[edit]

Just out of pure curiosity, how would you make citations for information like the very early world cups? I don't really think there would be anything online about them, just books containing information. Don't you think? Correct me if I'm wrong. 190.10.7.25 (talk) 16:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When I wrote this article ~5 years ago, it was spun off from the main FIFA World Cup article. I expanded the information from the parent article, based on the most reliable information regarding the historical World Cups, which I found on FIFA's website (currently listed in the "Other Sources" section).
It should be noted that the host selection process was rather boring in the earliest renditions of the World Cup, due to the high cost of travel and other factors.
At the time when I wrote the article, in-line citations were not widely used (though I could be wrong about that). However, considering every short paragraph under each World Cup was derived from this very short PDF, the in-line citation link would probably be referenced 15-25 times, creating a illegible mess at the bottom of the page in the references section.
However, I do believe that in-line citations should be used, I just don't know what approach should be used. Perhaps some additional references would be a nice addition, but the user above is right in that it might be tough to find, especially if it is only available in print form. However, there are ways to cite books and printed material (see Wikipedia:Citation templates for more details).
These in-line citations that may need to be added is why I left one of the cleanup templates at the top of the page. I'll recuse myself from making any decision either way about what templates should be added. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 07:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Monaco 2034[edit]

How can Monaco be listed as a future host when it doesn't even have a national team competing for the WC? TollHRT52 (talk) 17:31, 29 August 2012 (AEST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.146.77.136 (talk)

Indonesia 2030[edit]

The section about the Indonesian bid is very unclear and I believe just plain wrong. It says that FIFA host selection policy is that any country may bid for a World Cup provided that their continental confederation has not hosted either of the past two World Cups. This is correct, but then it states that Indonesia is thus allowed to bid, while Africa and Europe aren't. Qatar 2022 is one of the previous two, so Indonesia shouldn't be allowed to bid. Europe and Africa should be allowed, although Africa is also allowed to host the 2026 WC. Thus this section should be changed, I'm not sure how myself but just throwing it out there — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.197.200.235 (talk) 12:03, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the section about the Indonesian bid as I can't find any sources to support a single bid. There is a source mentioning a collective bid by south east Asian nations. Valenciano (talk) 09:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies? Why is this here?[edit]

I'm just a normal Wikipedia reader. I came here to check some facts about who hosted the event and when. Yet as I scroll down I slam into all the "controversies" about the Brazil 2014 world cup. Why is this here? Isn't it out of place among the plain facts of the rest of this article? Surely if you are going to make this a post about controversies, you should include past ones as well. Not as if the South Africa cup was smooth sailing. Or the issues about Russia or Qatar hosting the future cups are already controversial.

To me this article reads as something factual about the hosting and bidding process, then when you get to Brazil 2014 it spins off into some out of context political rant. That should be elsewhere.

In summary - stay consistent. Stick the politics onto another page. Every big sporting event has controversies. World cup hosting controversies should be a separate article. 86.10.167.123 (talk) 17:17, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Completely agree. In my view, this section comes across as an agressive criticism of the way the World Cup bid has been handled by the Brazilian authorities. Even if this article were going to mention controversies for every bid, the tone would be wrong. I'm convinced the section is a WP:SOAP violation, and should be removed, but I'll wait and see what others have to say.  J.Gowers  16:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.Gowers (talk • contribs) [reply]

Agree with the above comments. I believe a short controversy section is probably justified where that controversy has resulted in a change to how the hosts are selected, so a section on the controversy surrounding the selection of Germany as hosts is justified, as that led to the continental rotation policy. I don't see how that applies to Brazil, so I've removed the section. Valenciano (talk) 17:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Total Bids By Country[edit]

The List of countries and number of bids seems to be in the wrong place as it is below the Notes or References section. Shouldn't it be under the Total bids by country section? HMS88 (talk) 23:58, 19 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HMS88 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the United States not in the table of Total Bids by Country? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DThompsonIII (talk • contribs) 16:44, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • and the Soviet Union — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.159.161.200 (talk) 09:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added GRE, TUN, URU, URS and USA to the list to more closely match the information in the preceding sections of the article.NINpigNIN (talk) 19:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Section Titles as links[edit]

I noticed that the titles of each section link to the relevant world cup information. This is an issue when browsing on a mobile phone, as when you click on title to drop down/reveal the contents, you end up following the link. I am new to editing Wikipedia, but would standard practice be to include a line underneath that says "Main article: 1930 FIFA World Cup"? I didn't want to edit this in case there was some reason behind it. Posicoln (talk) 21:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil[edit]

Brazil's statistics in the FIFA_World_Cup_hosts#Host_country_performances table is incorrect for the 2014 FIFA World Cup. The right statistics are here: 2014_FIFA_World_Cup#Tournament_team_rankings. CCamp2013 (talk) 04:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I cant see anything wrong, matches decided on penalties are considered a draw. Penalties are only to decide what team goes to next round. QED237 (talk) 21:28, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Qed237: Exactly, Which means it should be Wins: 3; Draws: 2; Loses: 2. CCamp2013 (talk) 07:19, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you are right, I correct it. Reading info below table Win% → Every drew counted as a half win. Wins on penalty shootouts are counted as draws. it is very clear it is 3-2-2 but I am very confused that draws are counted a half win. Either it is a win or it is not, a draw is not a win. QED237 (talk) 12:20, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The half win thing is only for the percentage. Although, I see where this would cause confusion, I think they did it the best way that made sense. CCamp2013 (talk) 05:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2018/2022[edit]

it says "For the 2018 World Cup bidding process, this meant that bids from Africa and South America were not allowed. For the 2022 World Cup bidding process, this meant that bids from South America and Europe were not allowed.[15][16]"

the sentence about 2022 doesn't make much sense sense. because both world cups were decided upon at the same time it was unknown on which continent the 2018 world cup would take place, in principal that could have been europe, north america, asia or oceania. because it wasn't decided yet where the 2018 world cup would take place, this couldn't rule out europe for 2022. 92.196.58.242 (talk) 13:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Crimea marked green on map[edit]

Crimea is recognised as Ukrainian territory by United Nations resolution 68/262, therefore the map depicting it in green (allegely to be part of Russian Federation) is unacceptable. There is a notification in the caption, but it is important not to give initially wrong information. I suggest the map being redrawn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.69.172.178 (talk) 13:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Links[edit]

@Walter Görlitz: While WP:OVERLINK discourages linking country names in plain text, I don't think it should be applied this way in the tables summarizing the hosts and the total bids by country. Those are, in essence, lists of countries, and there isn't another one of the Lists of countries and territories which doesn't ever link to the respective entities. By opening such an article one finds information on the country's size, population, economics and infrastructure, all of which are relevant details about a World Cup-organizing nation. --Theurgist (talk) 18:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But the article is not about the countries and most of them are sufficiently well-known so linking is not required. The tournament articles themselves do not link to the hos countries so it would extremely odd to do so here. Also, there is no need to ping me as this article is on my watchlist. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1942 World Cup bids[edit]

Since the modern Flag of India was not adopted until independence in 1947, shouldn't the flag representing India be the flag of British India, the Star of India? CUtigers2007 (talk) 02:30, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"2030 in association football" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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The Map (Crimea)[edit]

Crimea is coloured green. It should not be considered part of Russia. 94.173.217.215 (talk) 14:13, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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