Talk:Federation of Arab Republics

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Arabia[edit]

Funny how NONE of those countries are in Arabia proper. -- 23:57, 2 March 2007 201.21.96.49

How is that relevant? AnonMoos 00:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And depends what one means by "Arabia proper". -- Beardo (talk) 22:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously what was meant was 'the Arabian peninsula', which is indeed the original 'Arabia', and it doesn't call for a change in the article but it is an interesting point. Lighten up.

I don't think this "country" existed.[edit]

I've never heard of this place, and I have several atlases from the period and know a bit about failed pan-arab ideals. Also, Syria and egypt were no longer in union in 1972. Zazaban 23:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It never existed as a single nation-state with unified central administration and diplomatic representation, but it was a grandiose concept in the mind of Qaddhafi, which the Egyptian and Syrian governments pretended to go along with -- and it definitely had repercussions in the realm of flags, where Libya, Syria, and Egypt had exactly the same flag during much of the 1970's, with اتحاد الجمهوريات العربية written right on the flag... AnonMoos 09:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The way the article puts it it sounds like it WAS single nation state. This needs to be fixed. Zazaban 21:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "hoax" tag[edit]

The "hoax" tag adds nothing whatsoever to this article, since it's not a hoax -- it was a grandiose concept in the mind of Qaddhafi, which the Egyptian and Syrian governments pretended to go along with, and whose main real-world impact was in the realm of flags. That is not a hoax. AnonMoos 22:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article needs to make that MUCH more clear. Zazaban 22:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coin[edit]

I think I have a coin from the Federation of Arab Republics. It has the 'coat of arms' on it with three stars on the bird's chest. Does anyone know how to verify this? Anneblumenberg (talk) 16:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the federation issued a common currency for all three countries, and the three stars are more associated with Syria and Iraq (at various phases). Sounds like some variation of the "hawk of Qureish" which has been part of the Coat of arms of Syria and the Coat of arms of Libya, as well as of the federation... AnonMoos (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Hawk of Quraish with three stars on his chest... Syria! Never any other arab state used a COA this way. --Roksanna (talk) 19:57, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Details[edit]

What was actually agreed ? Were there any formal documents ?

Can it really be called abortive if it lasted 5 years ?

What marks its end ? -- Beardo (talk) 22:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They agreed to have a common flag and state emblem, but there was very little progress on unifying governmental structures, or anything that most people would call meaningful substantive unification. It came to an end when Qadhdhafi took great umbrage with Sadat's trip to Jerusalem in 1977, and withdrew from the federation and changed Libya's flag to plain green. Since Qadhdhafi was the driving force behind the whole thing in the first plaace, and the Egyptian and Syrian leaders were not too enthusiastic, the concept lost what little momentum it previously had when Qadhdhafi withdrew. When Egypt and Syria changed their flags again in the early 1980's, that was a sign that the federation was completely 100% defunct. AnonMoos (talk) 22:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can find many details in the German version. --Roksanna (talk) 15:06, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan[edit]

Does anyone have more information about the proposed union between Egypt and the Sudan? Unlike Libya which is across the desert Sudan is just down the nile. With the coming division of Sudan it could even become important information.24.250.242.46 (talk) 22:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan was under joint British-Egyptian rule before 1956. The alternative proposals listed on the article page amounted to even less than the main Libya-Egypt-Syria "Federation" itself. AnonMoos (talk) 03:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A last Egypt-Sudanese integration attempt started in 1982 and failed in 1985. However, yes, a later unification after Sudan will have lost its south is not completely unrealistic. --Roksanna (talk) 21:23, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]