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Paper a kind of felt?[edit]

Would you say that paper is technically at type of felt? It seems to fit the definition. ike9898 02:28, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

No, as felt is made with wool. Don't feel the need to base everything on how it is made. Classifying paper as felt would be silly, as it isn't felt. -anon
Wrong. Felt can be made with wool, but doesn't have to. Paper is wetlaid, that's a different process, therefore it is no felt. --JogyB (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Felting and Feltmaking into Felt[edit]

I don't think the two articles are distinct enough. They should be sections of this article (felt). Kslays 17:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely agree with this. In fact, I'm not sure that feltmaking even has any (encyclopedic) content not contained here. --Deville (Talk) 01:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I concur. felting is short and you're going to end up reading felt anyway. Besides, it seems that the act of making felt should naturally fall under defining felt (which is convenient since felt does address making felt!). --sldownard 16:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've done the merge. With no objections, I think this was a straightforward case. -dmmaus 00:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Great job, thanks. Kslays 19:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something is wrong with the following:

"Highly sophisticated felted artifacts were found preserved in permafrost in a tomb in Siberia and dated to 600 AD. prevent blisters. At the end of their journey, the movement and sweat had turned the wool into felt socks."

Emphasis should be placed on the difference between fur felt and wool felt. The manufacturing processes are similar, but the treatment of the fibers at the beginning is quite different. Wool is not carrotted. Fur is brushed on the skin with carrott, and then the fur is cut off the skin. Paper is not felt: it doesn't fit the definition of the fibers twisting around themselves and shrinking. (airel@aol.com)

Merge with Baize?[edit]

Was proposed 2006-10-21 by anonymous user.
Disagree with merge. Felt is non-woven. Baize is woven but napped to imitate felt. It may be OK (if true) to write that Americans sometimes call baize "felt" (and link both ways) but I think it would be confusing to have them in the same article. Perhaps one should even write that "baize" is sometimes erroneously referred to as "felt" in the USA. --Boson 18:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Boson. Felt and (woven) cloth are opposites. D021317c 01:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Diagram Request[edit]

The manufacturing section is confusing, and would benefit from both a rewrite and a diagram. PatrickFisher 14:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where can one obtain real felt?[edit]

I have an old physics text, that put felt at the top of the list in ability to absorb sound. The reason I ask may seem strange. Here in the USA, since at least the year 2000, covert ultrasound weapons have been used to target individuals, I know since I am one of the victims. I need to get real felt to test its shielding ability against these weapons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.163.55 (talk) 05:40, 8 August 2007

Acrylic felt?[edit]

The article introduction doesn't specify a fiber, then later wool is specified and the description refers to properties of animal fibers. I don't know enough about the topic to make a useful edit, but I know felt can be made with acrylic fiber as well. 129.63.223.28 (talk) 16:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Needle felts can be made with (nearly) all kinds of fibres, including mineral and polymer fibres. These felts represent the majority of the felts produced in industry, with polyester being by far the most used fibre material. I'll try to write a few things about this in the article (as soon as I find some time). --JogyB (talk) 14:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Machine washing[edit]

Therefore, woolen clothes should only be hand-washed or machine-washed in cold water. Except that superwash wool is becoming more and more common. Also this seems to imply (to me at least) that one should never machine wash woolen clothing, even if the goal might be to felt them. So I've removed the sentance. Loggie (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only Wool[edit]

It tends to work well only with woolen fibers as their scales, when aggravated, bond together to form a cloth. Is Beaver "Woolen?" Stetson prefers Beaver so why would it work well "Only," with wool?I am removing "Only." Can someone please fix it? -oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 22:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by -oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talkcontribs) 21:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic?[edit]

Considering the proverb "I'll eat my hat", is filt toxic? It doesn't seem so from the article. Would it be okay for someone to eat their hat? 84.129.161.210 (talk)

No, felt is not toxic. However, some chemicals used for feltmaking could be. But even if it is not toxic, I don't think it's healthy to eat a felt hat. --JogyB (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "construction" section is very hard to understand, almost incomprehensible - really written for experts in textiles[edit]

For instance, the first sentence in the "Construciton" section: "Felt is made by a process called wet felting, where the natural wool fibre is stimulated by friction and lubricated by moisture (usually soapy water), and the fibres move at a 90 degree angle towards the friction source and then away again, in effect making little "tacking" stitches. Only 5% of the fibres are active at any one moment, but the process is continual, and so different 'sets' of fibres become activated and then deactivated in the continual process." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlrosen (talkcontribs) 09:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not too technical. It needs text editing (and some copy editing, to repair elisions) to fix the logic and some of the syntax. A straightforward layout of the compression and mulling process would help instead of talking about fibres moving at angles toward the "friction source." As it stands, the author looks like the only one who can take a crack at it. It's really not comprehensible enough for a little fiddling by someone else.Euonyman (talk) 17:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rewritten with many many refs. Hopefully better now.104.163.154.161 (talk) 09:29, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]