Talk:Firema T-68

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TfGM fast tracking withdrawal[edit]

See http://www.tfgm.com/tfgm_news.cfm?news_id=9007865?submenuheader=3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.248.29.41 (talk) 10:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The refurbishment program has not been cancelled, its been partially superceded by the order of 12 more M5000's and the potential order of upto 20 more but there isnt a suggestion of replacing the T68a and not all T68 would be withdrawn, just those in the worst condition. WatcherZero (talk) 11:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't sure how many trams won't be refurbished as a result of the fast tracked withdrawals. I was aware that not all T68s are being withdrawn yet as not enough M5000s have been/are being ordered to replace all of them. However, the article refers to all trams due to receive a refurbishment program which is surly out-of-date. Not having enough reliable facts I didn't want to update the article. 89.248.29.41 (talk) 16:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Safety equipment[edit]

I would interested to know what sort of deadman equipment is used on Metrolink, I hope vigilance control will be included on future additions to the fleet? 144.139.85.171 February 2006

The main power handle has to be turned by 90° and held there while the tram is moving, The signaling system will also apply the brakes if a signal is passed at danger Dasy2k1 (talk) 12:07, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date format in the references section[edit]

Are some of these written in YYYY-DD-MM? It's currently 2012-04-29 00:37 GMT and yet references 5 and 6 say:

"Retrieved 2012-08-03."

It's not August yet, it's only the end of April, so as it stands the statement is false (although I believe an honest mistake, there seems to be no reason to lie about it). I can only assume, as words that it means the 8th of March, but I've never seen that format before. I've left it as is, but is that the sort of thing that should be updated for consistency? Presumably to the YYYY-MM-DD format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.137.171.79 (talk) 00:37, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dates in refs which are formatted YYYY-DD-MM are not in accordance with Wikipedia:Citing sources#Citation style; they also fail MOS:DATE whether in the references section or elsewhere. As you noticed, if the day of the month is 12 or earlier, it is ambiguous and could be taken as YYYY-MM-DD format. This is actually quite likely, since YYYY-MM-DD is in accordance with ISO 8601 whereas YYYY-DD-MM is not. Dates in refs are also covered by MOS:DATEUNIFY, which states that they should be consistent with each other; also that access dates should either be consistent with publication dates, or be YYYY-MM-DD.

The dates in question were added with these edits, so it seems that the editor who did this hadn't noticed the clock tick past midnight. I've altered them to 9 March 2012, which is both more likely and unambiguous. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:54, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Witthdrawal table[edit]

The withdrawal information has been copy pasted from http://www.britishtramsonline.co.uk/manchester.html and being in breach of copypaste policy, has been deleted. Mantrans7 (talk) 12:42, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incidents[edit]

Series of non-notable incidents deleted, of little encyclopedic value. Mantrans7 (talk) 13:53, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Naming[edit]

Wouldn't it be better to move this back to T-68 (which is where it used to be for years until 2018) so we can avoid all the complications of manufacturer mergers etc? G-13114 (talk) 13:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change from Breda to Firema[edit]

Currently in the process of editing the changes from Breda to Firema, working through various books to provide accurate references. Please hold off reverting until complete. 92.26.185.140 (talk) 11:54, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]