Talk:Flag of China/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 21:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   Lead: although you have wikilinked canton to Flag terminology, you need to spell it out specifically, e.g. upper hoist (left) quarter.

   History of the design: But this design was strongly opposed by Zhang Zhizhong due to the golden bar symbolizing the tearing apart of the revolution and the country, and might cause an imagination to Sun Wukong's Ruyi Jingu Bang What is that supposed to mean? Please rewrite in plain English.

   Please recast this who section in neutral language, e.g. Later, he realized that the CPC was the great savior ... - if he said this, quote it or least attribute the statement specificall to him.

   Symbolism: According to the current government interpretation of the flag, the red background symbolizes the revolution and the golden colors were used to "radiate" on the red background, which is considered to be more beautiful than white. What is being stated here? Is it gold or red which is more beautiful than white?

   Military flags: The main feature of the flags is a golden star at the top left corner and the characters 81 to the right of the star, all placed on a red background. The characters 81 (八一) pays homage to the events on August 1, 1927; this was when the PLA was created by the Communist Party to start their rebellion against Kuomintang Government in Nanchang. Please explain why the characters "81" represent tis event.

   Organizational flags: The flag has a red background that is charged with the emblem of the CPC in gold at the top left corner.[40] The flag ratio is defined as two by three; the size of the emblem is 8 units square, placed four units away from the hoist and three units away from the top of the flag. Need to explain the number of units used for the whole falg for this to make any sense.

   I had to make a lot of copy-edits. Frankly the prose was extremely poor for a GA nomination. Please ensure that you get someone to copy-edit before making any further nominations.

   The Lead does not fully summarize the article- summaries of the sections on subnational, military and organizational flags are no presenst in the lead. Please read WP:LEAD for guidance.

   Lead expanded. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 03:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Please provide English translations for the title and publisher of all Chinese language references. I assume good faith for the contents of print sources and Chines language sources.

   Changed to English. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 03:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   I note, however, somewhat confusing explanations of the sourcing of several of these files.

   What files did you note was odd? User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 01:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   On hold whilst above concerns are being addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I am now happy to pass this as a Good Article, thanks for your hard work. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

August 1st is sometimes written 8-1. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 01:35, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

With regards to the images, an example is the Hong King flag the source is claimed as (http://www.protocol.gov.hk/flags/eng/r_flag/index.html) but it is described and licensed as PD-self. I will leave it to the Wiki Commons people to see if this is a problem. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

It was more linking to a construction sheet than anything else (as required now with image sourcing guidelines). User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 23:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)