Talk:Fleet Marine Force Combat Operation Insignia

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FMF Combat Operation Insignia[edit]

This is one of the "authorized service devices" and a "Dept. of the Navy device" according to the DoD awards manual. None of the Service award manuals uses the term "award device" for any of the devices.— Preceding unsigned comment added by YahwehSaves (talk • contribs) 06:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do a simple Google search and you will see that award device is a common term used to refer to the appurtenances worn on military awards and decorations. Look at any commercial seller of medals and that is how it is referred. Since they are likely trying to make it so customers can find what they are looking for on their websites, why do you suppose they call them award devices? Because that is likely the common usage. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 11:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Award device isn't common term or use for medal and ribbon devices. The dealers follow how the military describes it so their customers can get what they are looking for. A simple search for "ribbon devices" comes up at Medals of America for one, as ribbon and medal attachments and devices. This Coast Guard chart has "Ribbon & Devices" also. [1] YahwehSaves (talk) 01:51, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Inherent Resolve Campaign Medal[edit]

Is the FMFCOI authorized for the Inherent Resolve Campaign Medal? This source says yes, but I've seen nothing from DoD confirming it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:35, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the name of the device and article[edit]

"FMF Combat Operation Insignia": Deliberately changing the name of the device for the article and changing the article wording should be set forth in Talk first and not act like one has both DoD and Marine Corps authorization besides Wikipedia authorization. YahwehSaves (talk) 04:07, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unauthorized by who? The name change was done with a proper cite from official DOD source. The DOD is higher than the USMC on the chain of command so anything they put out supersedes it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:19, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Secretary of the Navy for one. The source (2013) is a supplier of the FMF device. Despite how the source refers to the device (the DoD officially refers to the services for their award criteria), the DoD officially uses the same name for this device that the Navy and USMC has used for several decades. The USN and USMC does not refer to or call the device which is a miniature "Marine Corps emblem", the "FMF Combat Insignia". YahwehSaves (talk) 07:05, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This item is intended to recognize Navy personnel who serve with FMF units in a designated combat operation for wear on campaign and expeditionary medals. All the Department of the Navy sources refer to it that way. The detail specification sheet from the Defense Logistics Agency referenced in the edit summary moving the page is simply a truncated spelling from technical papers that are more concerned with physical dimensions and metal alloy properties. If the Department of Defense and the Department of the Navy had a dispute over what the proper name should be, I might think differently, but there is no evidence that. Common sense should prevail and keep the common and traditional "Combat Operation Insignia" page name that has always been in place here. I was canvassed by a request on my Talk Page to come here, however, so I will wait 24 hours to give any other interested editors a chance to respond here before I entertain moving the page back to the original name. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 23:14, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]