Talk:Fourteen-segment display

Merger proposal

A sixteen segment display only differs from a fourteen segment display by spitting the top and bottom horizontal segments in two. I don't think two articles are needed for such a minor difference. --79.71.37.21 (talk) 21:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

While the are similar Physically the patters they can display are quite different. 14's are much more common than 16's and a 16 does not look and feel like a 14. I do think that the 16 article need more info on how and why it differs form a 14 in use (not just construction). I am against merger, but rather for more info, advantages/disadvantages and sources on the 16 Larek (talk) 15:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose. They are two different kinds of displays. 'FLaRN'(talk) 23:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose. If 14-segment and 16-segment were to be merged, then there's no reason you wouldn't want to also include 7-segment displays and make it one big article for "segment displays." Is that really necessary? I don't think so. Art Cancro (talk) 15:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Agree. The sample image on the 16-segment page does not itself take advantage of the benefits of having 16 segments over 14--none of the glyphs shown show a need to split the top or bottom segments. (Many do show the centre split, but that's quite acceptable). I'd say 16 is so related that it should be merged into 14. 7 is distinct enough (due to its being so universal that you can get paper signs to replicate it by filling in segments with marker). I'd go with the article for the 7 segment, and one for 14 which cites that 16 is also available. IL-Kuma (talk) 18:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC) Agree. With a merge though I'd use the term starburst display which covers both for the title of the merged package. Plugwash (talk) 20:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Merged - they are the same thing except for a cosmetic difference, and the articles were 98% similar anyway. Neither term seems to be used, and I was surprised we don't have Alphanumeric display as an article. --Wtshymanski (talk) 04:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

OK..you merged them...but what about the article title? If you're going to cover both types of displays, you should change also the title to reflect both of them. Maybe a better title would be Segmented alphanumeric display.89.137.187.148 (talk) 18:57, 27 August 2011 (UTC)Apass

First complaint in 1 1/2 years? What does the literature call them? We don't make up nomenclature on the Wikipedia, we follow sources. "Segmented alphanumeric display" gets only 4 hits on Google Books, two of which are the same and clearly wrong (a Nixie tube is not segmented). --Wtshymanski (talk) 02:53, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

It was only about the name, as 14 segment displays clearly are not 16 segment displays. And if you suggested Alphanumeric displays, then you should merge this article into that one as there are many other types of alphanumeric displays, not all of them segmented. As for their name in the literature, they're just called 14 segment displays, or 16 segment displays... So you merged them, but I'm quite not satsfied with the title vs. contents.212.77.163.104 (talk) 14:10, 29 August 2011 (UTC)Apass

Well, I've just made a redirect from 16 segment display, because Sixteen-segment display already pointed here. Anyone who's totally disoriented by suddenly reading an article about "14-segment displays" when he'd typed in "16-segments displays" has problems beyond our powers to help. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:19, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Apparently we get 30 or 40 views of the redirect page Sixteen-segment display per day, which has got to be more than chance. I wonder what those people think when they arrive here? --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, maybe 1 of those hits in the last days it's from me, and I openned the discussion here....89.137.187.148 (talk) 18:16, 29 August 2011 (UTC)Apass

@ "First complaint in 1 1/2 years?" - I can tell you that in the past when I wanted to read about 16-segement display, I was surprised by the title "Fourteen-segment display" AND the 14-segment content SEVERAL times already. WP has MANY more readers than editors. Many more people suffer from the merge than would ever in live write anything in this Talk page here. Today is the first time I come to the Talk page and see this is only the result of a merger. HTML2011 (talk) 15:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Merge Unless there the different articles can clearly show how 16 segments differ from 14. I also support the idea to rename under Alphanumeric display, which seems to get redirected here anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.6.104 (talk) 20:37, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

You know something funny? This article is a redirect from 16 segment display, but at the bottom of the page, there is a link to the sixteen segment display article! I think the articles should have stayed distinct and the 16 segment display title should have been made a redirect to sixteen segment display. Anyway, 16-segment display is a distinct redirect to the proper article. I would say the redirect to the 14 segment display should go!89.137.186.101 (talk) 20:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)Apass

patterns

It seems we really need some pattern information in theese articles, what are the common patterns, what letters are better represented on a 16 than on a 14? Plugwash (talk) 12:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Nixie versions

I just added a section on nixie versions. While not nearly as common as other types, they do have a bit of a following - especially centered around the "4-letter-word" concept. I would like to add a section for this device but I cannot determine if best fits here or under nixie tubes. Thoughts? 21:16 02 November 2009 Brianstuckey —Preceding undated comment added 03:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC).

Nixie tubes are technologically unrelated to 14 segment displays in terms of operation - Nixie tubes are a much older single segment display. With Nixie tubes, each digit is formed by a single display segment in turn, rather than multiple display segments combining to form all digits as with N segment displays (N=7, 14, or 16).

There is an existing article on Nixie tubes, Nixie tube being the established name for the technology rather than merely the term used by "enthusiasts".

I would suggest therefore that the Nixie tube section in this article be removed.

I have added a link under "See also" to the Nixie tube article.

86.171.152.94 (talk) 03:46, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, there are at least some 13-segment (and probably 14- and 16- segment) cold-cathode neon displays, but did the Burroughs company call them "Nixie" or did they call them "Panaplex"? This catalog [1] doesn't show any segment-style displays under the "Nixie" tag. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Sixteen-segment display animated.gif

The animation "Sixteen-segment display animated.gif" that is used in this article doesn't display any numbers or letters that use broken top or bottom segments. The caption mentions a "typical 16-segment display" but it might have just as well be a 14-segment display. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2010 (UTC)