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WTF

"A quantitative definition of 4GL has been set by Capers Jones, as part of his work on function point analysis. Jones defines the various generations of programming languages in terms of developer productivity, measured in function points per staff-month. A 4GL is defined as a language that supports 12–20 function points per staff month. This correlates with about 16–27 lines of code per function point implemented in a 4GL."

WTF am I reading? People get points for writing code now? 4GL allows you to get more points? Why is this a computer science article, please move to the pseudoscience or enterprise programming section.

"Fourth-generation languages have often been compared to domain-specific programming languages (DSLs). [[[!!!WTF???Some researchers state that 4GLs are a subset of DSLs.???WTF!!!]]]"

Bullshit.

Yes, I know, and I agree with you. Both the references to support that statement about 4GLs being a subset of DSLs are dead. I removed the preceding sentence too, as it really doesn't make any sense. The section about Capers Jones and his points per staff-month was removed also.--FeralOink (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Uh, I agree with the BS part, though it really seems these "4gl" are just DSL for statistical processing or SAP or, you know, domain-specific stuff like that. It seems almost as if being a real programming language with generic applicability is mutually exclusive with being "4gl". The whole 4gl concept seems like overly vague BS. It's simply too early to tell, history hasn't been played out yet. --Sigmundur (talk) 08:56, 21 November 2016 (UTC)