Talk:Frances Cromwell

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"Historians have linked her to several suitors, amongst them Charles I,[2]"

This sentences is obviously wrong. Charles I was dead. I think the writer meant Charles II. (Never mind that he was not actually King, being in exile and such.)

I suggest making that change and using the reference: Antonia Fraser, (1973) Cromwell our Chief of Men, page 601

If no objection is made here , I will edit it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.60.115 (talk) 03:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing no objection, I made the change.

Date of marriage vs eldest child - seeming contradiction[edit]

Her eldest child, whose father was her second husband, Sir John Russell, 3rd Baronet, is listed as being "Sir William Russell, 4th Baronet (c. 1660–1725)". However the marriage of Frances Cromwell and Sir John is clearly stated as taking place "on 7 May 1663". It would seem unlikely that he could be the couple's son if he was born prior to the marriage as he would not have been able to inherit the title of his father if he was illegitimate. Sir William's article further complicates matters as it gives his birth as "c.1654", which is even more unlikely as this was prior to Frances Cromwell's first marriage. If Sir William was born between 1654 and 1660 as suggested he cannot have been the son of Sir John unless he was the product of an earlier marriage not recorded in any of the articles here. He cannot be the son of Frances' first husband, Robert Rich, son of Robert Rich, 3rd Earl of Warwick, as he would not have become the 4th Russell Baronet in this case (and indeed he would have become 4th Earl of Warwick had Robert Rich been his father). Dunarc (talk) 23:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC) Amended by Dunarc (talk) 21:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]