Talk:Fred Spiker

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I wonder...[edit]

If this guy was a fan of the band Queen, and if not, then how annoying the jokes must have been. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.90.68 (talk) 22:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spiker / McQueen[edit]

  • Fred Spiker has never provided any proof that he is related to Steve McQueen, but has convinced many companies to hire him as a McQueen look-alike. He has never contact the McQueen family or its representatives with any claims or any proof. At least one company has been forced to pay significant amounts in settlement in reliance upon Spiker's assertion that he was the son of McQueen. This page should be updated to reflect the fact that Spiker only claims to be related but has not provided any evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davegh (talkcontribs) 04:29, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • An allegation that McQueen had an illegitimate son named Fred should require proof. There has been no DNA testing and the man does not even know who is mother is, yet he claims to be the son of Steve McQueen. This should not be stated as a fact as it is on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.233.18.83 (talk) 08:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While this may be true without the backing of citations the article has to be left as it stands. As per wikipedia policy, Wikipedia is about verifiability NOT truth. Right now all the sources point to Fred being the son of Steve McQueen. After doing some research and online searches it does appear that Fred and the McQueen Estate did go through a lot of legal work and eventually a DNA test was done. The fact that the McQueen estate hasn’t said anything to discredit Fred makes me lean towards Fred'S story but as I can’t find any RS sources backing Fred suing the McQueen estate the lawsuit has to be left out of the article. -- Esemono (talk) 07:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
None of those sources are reliable sources; they're all fourth-tier movie magazines that are just repeating publicity claims. THF (talk) 00:08, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Japan zone article specifically deals with McQueen's heritage. -- Esemono (talk) 02:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see no evidence that that's a reliable source on the question, or that that website did anything other than unquestioningly repeat Spiker's claim. THF (talk) 07:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spiker's dates[edit]

  • Fred Spiker has made claims, without providing any proof, that he is the illegitimate son of Steve McQueen. The dates he cites are incorrect and can be verified by external references, including Steve's first wife's book. With these claims, Spiker has convinced many companies to cast him in commercials, including one recent company that was ultimately forced to pay a sizable settlement to the McQueen estate. Davegh (talk) 04:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)davegh[reply]
What dates are you talking about and how does Neile Adams' book discredit them? -- Esemono (talk) 07:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]