Talk:Futurians

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This page is misleading[edit]

This page is misleading. It sounds like the Futurians are a group of fans, but as soon as Donal Wollheim is mentioned it gets confusing. Did the Futurians start when he decided to make it political or did it start when they were a group of fans? The article does not make it clear.

Uh, what article were you reading?:

As described in Isaac Asimov's autobiography In Memory Yet Green, the Futurians spun off from the Queens Science Fiction Society (headed by Sam Moskowitz, later an influential SF editor and historian) over ideological differences. Asimov does not specify the differences but hints that they were political in character. Other sources indicate that Donald A. Wollheim was pushing for a more left wing direction with a goal of leading fandom toward a political ideal, all of which Moskowitz resisted. As a result, Wollheim broke off and began the Futurians.

How is that not clear enough? Runa27 21:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why did this group break up?[edit]

Why this group ended in 1945 would be a very good addition to this article, if anyone knows about it enough to add this. Rlquall 13:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Knight's book is at my library, but I don't recall what reason he stated or if his perception is even accurate. Most things I've indicated is that they were like close-knit groups of friends in that they either drifted apart or got sick of each other. I think there was also some rivalries and fighting over women. (The group was predominately male)--T. Anthony 10:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may have heard: there was a war on. A lot of people left town, and by 1945 the membership was down pretty badly by then. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Michel[edit]

I am de-wikifying John Michel because the link currently points to an article about a British Field Marshal who died in 1886. This is obviously not the Futurian John Michel (who currently has no article). Pat Berry 22:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's now a dab page, with links to the Field Marshall and to the (as yet unwritten) article about the Futurian. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Link[edit]

http://media-in-transition.mit.edu/science_fiction/profiles/pohl.html in the External links no longer works. Has this material been relocated? Anyone know? --Pleasantville 12:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated with information from Pohl's autobiography[edit]

I updated the page with info from Frederik Pohl's autobiography The Way the Future Was. I left the paragraph of info from Asimov's autobiography. However, that said. I think Pohl's info is going to be more accurate. Mainly because he was really involved directly in the day-to-day activities of the Futurians. Asimov wasn't very active, as In Memory Yet Green shows. David Reiss (talk) 20:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Little or no relationship to PSFS as originally written[edit]

I deleted what had been the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs under "Origins", which cite Ozzie Train (an unpublished cite - personal reminiscence? - original work?) and state a connection both with Lunarians, which was not founded until the '50s, and PSFS (Philadelphia Science Fiction Society), which, while founded at about the same time, by people who knew the principals of both Futurians and New Fandom, was not related to the NYC groups in the way suggested ... except that a group called the Philadelphia Futurians (which may have been an outgrowth of the very ambitious and very political original NYC group) merged with PSFS early in its history. MarkVolundNYC (talk) 05:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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