Talk:Galactic Radiation and Background

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Galactic Radiation and Background (GRAB) was the first U.S. orbital surveillance program (satellite pictured), revolutionizing American understanding of Soviet air defense radar capabilities?

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Good article[edit]

I took my F.A. text from SOLRAD 1 verbatim. GRAB is SOLRADs 1-4B, which I wrote, and which constitute their own program. Since all the sources and language have already passed muster, I figured I might as well make a Good Topic out of these first five probes. --Neopeius (talk) 05:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 13:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


I'll get to this shortly.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sturmvogel 66: Thanks so much! No hurry. :) --Neopeius (talk) 04:05, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sturmvogel 66: Thanks. :) Will fix today. --Neopeius (talk) 16:32, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sturmvogel 66: Better? I revamped the table into table form, too. I wasn't sure what you meant by "*Update the source link for File:Galactic Radiation and Background satellite 1.jpg" --Neopeius (talk) 20:28, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you click through to the image's page on Commons, the NRO link in the source field gives a 404. What I didn't notice is that there's an adjacent link named archive that links to a NRO document, so it's properly sourced after all. Part of the reviewing process is ensuring that all the source links in the images used are working and go to the right place. You cannot assume that everything is kosher just because something is on Commons, you need to check things for yourself.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sturmvogel 66: Fixed, thank you. :) And thanks for the review! Happy to return the favor any time. --Neopeius (talk) 17:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Think of what, the article? I've already promoted it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sturmvogel 66: I changed the message (above) after you got the original notification. :) I hadn't seen that you'd promoted it. --Neopeius (talk) 21:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it might be something like that.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:45, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate refs[edit]

There are three different references to "History of the Poppy Satellite System". Are these all the same document? I'm reluctant to just elide the refs, in case one has fewer redactions than another. Ideally we'd link to the best version, and the other mentions would refer to that. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 16:17, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Classified "launch"[edit]

The article says "American space launches were not classified at the time", but I don't think that communicates what is intended. The launch is never classified (they have to file a NOTAR, and in any event a massive rocket taking of from Florida is no secret). What is potentially classified is the orbit of the satellite (which is the case now for NRO satellites). Is this sentence intended to mean the US published details of the orbits of all their satellites (if so, we should say that), or does it mean that the US thought the Soviets would be able to track the satellite anyway by radar - and thus they needed to fly with the buddy satellite, close enough that the two couldn't be distinguished by radar (and if so, we should say that). -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 16:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk) 13:26, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Galactic Radiation and Background satellite 1 (GRAB-1)
Galactic Radiation and Background satellite 1 (GRAB-1)
  • ... that Galactic Radiation and Background (GRAB) (1960–2) was the first United States orbital surveillance program, revolutionizing American understanding of Soviet air defense radar capabilities? [1]Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by Neopeius (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 15 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Neopeius: Nice work on bringing this to GA. In checking for copyright violations, I did not consider the email exchange brought up the copyright violation detector. That is not a reliable source and looks like it's copying from us. Epicgenius (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Haha. I'm famous! :) Thank you very much. --Neopeius (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ LePage, Andrew. "Vintage Micro: The First ELINT Satellites". Retrieved January 18, 2019.
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