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A fact from George Asprey appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that George Asprey was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth – according to the Daily Mirror, it was a silver shovel?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Asprey.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that George Asprey was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth, according to the Daily Mirror it was a silver shovel?
Source: Carole Aye Maung, "Rough diamond; Asprey rebel has a golden future as an actor", Daily Mirror, 23 May 1996, archived at thefreelibrary.com

Reviewed: Schlosspark Türnich

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 08:01, 24 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - n
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I think it's appropriate to mention WP:DAILYMIRROR here, although because the hook explicitly references the Mirror in the quote I think that's probably okay. That said, the article doesn't fully reflect this – whereas the hook says "according to the Daily Mirror...", the article states that it was Asprey who said it. There's also a missing citation in the "Career" section. I've done some MOS and copy-editing, but left these for the nominator to resolve, presumably with sources that exist and have already been used in the article. I think resolution of those things above will be fine – perhaps a slight CE/rw of the hook to be:

ALT1 ... that George Asprey was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth – according to the Daily Mirror, it was a silver shovel?
ALT2 ... that according to the Daily Mirror, George Asprey was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth but a silver shovel?
ALT3 ... that because of his family's wealth, the Daily Mirror said that George Asprey was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth but a silver shovel?

MIDI (talk) 11:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article text specific to the hook now reflects the reference, but there are a few unsourced parts – the text in the Career section which states "he portrayed Jonathan Rees QC in The Barking Murders", as well as much of the filmography. Once this is resolved we'll be good-to-go. MIDI (talk) 11:25, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, MIDI. All done, I think. ALT1 and ALT2 both look good to me. Moonraker (talk) 19:26, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fab. I think ALT2 does the best job at reflecting your original without presenting the "wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth" line as fact (over opinion).

Good to go (WP:AGF on the new offline citations). MIDI (talk) 10:55, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promoter's comment: some folks are born, silver shovel in hand / lawd don't they help themselves, no... yeah, doesn't work as well—I think Fogerty hit it right the first time. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she?) 08:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 to T:DYK/P1