Talk:George King (Aetherius Society)

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I have done a lot of research on Mt. San Antonio (common name: Mt. Baldy) in the Southern California area. My research would not have been complete without reference to George King and his society. I appreciate this entry and the information that it provides.

I believe then that it is notable.

Peter_puppet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter puppet (talk • contribs) 02:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of POV in this article[edit]

There is a lot of POV and unreferenced material in this article. For example:

As a child he discovered that he ostensibly had the ability to heal through the radiation of spiritual power, a discovery that was to influence the rest of his life.

is unreferenced and presumes that anyone has such power or that "the radiation of spirtual power" actually exists.

The Christian Science is an example of an article with a more neutral voice.

Apepper 23:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been expanded - sort of - the History section repeats the same information as the original article so it would seem sensible to remove the original introduction, BUT the new section looks like a lift from either King's autobiography or a very sympathetic biography.

The peculiar paragraph:

Dozens of terrestrial honours followed. These culminated in his being created Archbishop Metropolitan of his own Church, and Prince of Santorini at the hand of a scion of one of Europe’s ancient noble houses. He also received his own Grant of Arms from a Herald at Her Majesty’s College of Arms in England.

Is pretty ridiculous - Archbishop of his own church? Prince of Santorini (given by someone who seems to have a good living by claiming to be an emperor and confering "honours" on people), Grant of Arms - is something you apply for, not conferred on you.

The article really need tightening up - I don't know enough about GK's to do it, but I recognise POV when I see it! Apepper 13:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who exactly gave him a doctorate of divinity? Tydaj 23:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about that, but I remember walking past the Aetherius Society "European HQ" (a shop in the Fulham Road in the 1980s) where his photograph was labelled "Lord George King" - but that only lasted a few days, it may be that someone complained about pretending to be a Lord; only Lord Voldemort and Lord Darth Vader have got away with that!

Apepper 17:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please use the article by Rothstein as a reference which explains much [1] Andries (talk) 10:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"On January 23, 1997, his birthday in his final year of life, a great astrological configuration occurred. So rare was this configuration that nothing like it had been seen for hundreds, and probably thousands, of years." - Far be it from me to deride such stark reportage, I have to say... Bull. Shit. I'm removing it. Lost Number 12:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

also: "Operation Power Light, commencing in 1993, used him as a channel for great power to be sent out."

^What does that even MEAN? Wow... If I have the time I'll research this guy just to help clear this up... this is a terribly, terribly POV article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.153.128.248 (talk) 01:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read the history section again and it's pretty terrible, I'm afraid. I've removed the "vast" from "vast continent" as a description of North America - its an average sized continent. The entire section needs a big rewrite, but the only sources seem to be from the Aetherius society itself - he doesn't seem to have been famous enough to attract much attention from objective biographers. Apepper (talk) 08:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article still is mind boggling in it's POV; I've just read that GK visited a city that's been floating (presumably invisibly) above the Gobi desert and that he designed a machine that prevented a war in Cyprus. I've looked at the Atherius Soc. website and even that seems more neutral by comparison; I'm tempted to simply remove most of it to leave plausable facts about his life:

His date/place birth, the founding of the society, the growth of the society and his place/date death. Would anyone object? Apepper (talk) 10:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just worked on the article hoping to improve it. I was conservative despite the obvious rubbish, but I try to make it more neutral were I could. By the way, what is the plural of a spiritual medium - mediums or media?--Kojozone (talk) 13:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The plural is media. Apepper (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's reading much better now - someone's been working hard! I'll try and do some work on finding citations; the heading lists him as an "inventor" - I almost dread to ask, what did he invent? Apepper (talk) 10:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reorganized and edited until I found this source (which I've placed in the references), from which the article seemed to be copied almost identically. Here's the section on his invention: In 1964, with a simple instruction from Geroge King's communicators Operation Bluewater was born. For this he had to design specialised apparatus capable of radiating a beam of spiritual energy placed on it by extraterrestrials through thousands of feet of seawater into a Psychic Centre of Earth.

If you think the article is better now, I'll finish what I started. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 12:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reads much better now - more encyclopedic. Strangely enough, I sort of guessed what he'd invented! Apepper (talk) 18:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citations & References[edit]

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 07:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Section "Later Years" has a claim of a claim: "On December 5, 1978, he claims to have received an invitation ..." Where did king make this claim? It needs a reference. Otherwise this section should be deleted.

Inking[edit]

What does inkling mean? "While he had no inkling what this could mean" Ameki (talk) 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It means "have the smallest idea"[[2]] 212.84.100.247 (talk) 16:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is a replication of this complete with "inkling". I've reported copy vio.Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:36, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mountains?[edit]

There are several references to mountains - Bodmin Moor is one. Bodmin Moor isn't a mountain; technically there are no mountains in England, it also seems to be non-encyclopedic in that area. Apepper (talk) 18:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Later years?[edit]

There have been some changes to the later years section which seem a bit biased - implying that being awarded the Freedom of the City of London or being Granted Arms are sorts of awards; both are things that anyone can apply for - although one might wonder about the kind of person who thinks it's worthwhile doing; when I get some time I'll try and clear it up, unless someone else wants to volunteer! Apepper (talk) 19:54, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Time for some serious housecleaning[edit]

The article is full of weasel words, hand-waving, utterly unsubstantiated fluff and worse. It needs serious housecleaning. To wit: "He was also an inventor..." (an inventor of what? The source listed does not say)..."was said to have a remarkable aptitude for driving" (by whom?)..."he had served with distinction" (distinguished by whom?), and so on. I'll give it a couple of weeks before I start pruning out the nonsense. Bricology (talk) 06:26, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]