Talk:George SanSouci

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Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

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Spelling of surname[edit]

Resolved

– Ginky's own preference was for SanSouci, not San Souci or Sansouci.

Please Explain your reason(s) Below thank you,Arnon Chaffin ^{Got a message?} 19:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had always thought Ginky's last name was "San Souci," with a space between "San" and "Souci." It is listed as "SanSouci." This needs to be clarified. Thanks in advance. RailbirdJAM 16:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hey its athena i dont know how to fix that i saw that too lol... if anyone can please fix it .

thanx

Athena San Souci

Well, that settles it. Hi, Athena. This is "JAM." I knew it was spelled wrong, but wanted to make sure. I will try to get it fixed, and if I cannot do it, I hope somebody else will. My best to you and Ginky.

RailbirdJAM 11:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Except, of course, that didn't settle it... — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 21:40, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it. I wasn't sure how to do it, but I read and read and read and figured it out. RailbirdJAM 11:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please help[edit]

Ginky's wife, Athena, stated when this article was created that there should be a space between "San" and "Souci" in the name, so it was changed from "SanSouci" to "San Souci." After reading an article written by George SanSouci, he states that he does not like it when people insert a space between "San" and Souci" and that it should definitely be "SanSouci."

I cannot change it back, since it was already "SanSouci" previously. Can anybody with more experience help in this regard? RailbirdJAM (talk) 10:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I still can't believe he died. Knew him for well a very long time. Met him first in Chelsea. Great guy. What a player.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:58, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Photos[edit]

BTW, Athena, do you have a BETTER photo of Ginky, one where he is playing pool? The only one I had was this one and a couple others when his hair was BLOND. (LOL). However, an action shot of Ginky playing pool would be cool! RailbirdJAM 11:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey JAM its Athena again i have many many photos but, i dont know how to add them. send me a PM on Azbilliards and i'll send you a good photo. - Athena

Unutilized sources[edit]

There are three good sources mentioned at the end of the references section which have not actually been used to properly cite anything in the article. That's kind of pointless. They all contain good information that can improve the article, and they can also be cited as sources for a number of things already in the article. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 21:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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