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Numbers in the Aircraft Inventory section[edit]

I've added a couple of tags in this section because this inventory was modified several times by vandals/IPs, while the source remained the same. Most probably this version represents the accurate numbers of aircraft sustained on 15 January 2007 in Aviation Week & Space Technology. The current version of that section does not represent by no means the operational aircraft inventory within the Georgian Air Force. --Eurocopter (talk) 15:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually not! Be careful, Georgian military dokumantations showed up to 35 SU-25 ( different variants ). Only the bomber squadron counts 35 aircrafts. Your source has only desinformations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ComanL (talkcontribs) 20:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I doubt any public numbers on this issue are accurate. Moreover, aircraft in inventory and aircraft that are operable are two different things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.155.39 (talk) 13:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well seeing it with the own eyes is a damn good proof —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.196.46.82 (talk) 01:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not as we have no way to verify what you have seen. Information has to be peer reviewed in order to establish the veracity of the information being displayed. Have a read of the Wiki policies for single source and original reseach and you'll see why a personal account can't be accepted as fact. Also, you'll see why claiming that you and a friend cannot be accepted either. (203.26.122.12 (talk) 01:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC))[reply]

georgians have 21 mi24   

http://defense-update.com/20131229_georgian_helicopters.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.43.226.251 (talk) 16:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, Georgia does not have 21 Mi-24. The article you are referring to (from 2013) says that Georgia had 21 Mi-24 but that they were being retired. What Georgia have now is 9 Mi-24, as "World Air Forces 2015", the reference in the article, says. Thomas.W talk 16:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

contradictory information[edit]

Okay, the table and equipment list show two VERY different numbers of aircraft. Can smeone sort this out? ANK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.156.156 (talk) 21:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

War with Russia[edit]

Are there any new stats of the Georgian Air Force after the 2008 invasion? Ace Combat Fanatic (talk) 20:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An important role[edit]

I think TAM, also Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing[1] plays a mayor role in producement, improvements, modernisations and repairs for the Georgian Air Force. I think it really deserves to be mentioned in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMightyGeneral (talkcontribs) 18:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Size[edit]

I changed the size number of the Georgian Air Force ( with georgian MOD Air Force section as source, see source [2] ), since it after 2008 significantly increased.

TheMightyGeneral (talk) 17:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mission and Ovjectives[edit]

I updated the Main Objectives section with some additional informations from the georgian MOD website[3] ( copied over and corrected )

TheMightyGeneral (talk) 17:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Future Plans[edit]

Are there any confirmations or informations about these future plans ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMightyGeneral (talkcontribs) 00:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Official Abolishment[edit]

The Georgian Air Force has been merged with the Ground Forces and does not longer exist as an own branch, so please delete this section. Cheers.

TheMightyGeneral (talk) 14:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MIG-29[edit]

I have never heard that Georgia had MIG-29. Where did you get that information form? Please give reference.

CheersNikaPilot (talk) 16:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reestablishment and modernisation[edit]

Although it appears there has never been a source given, nor can I find any, it seems odd for someone to make such a thing up. @TheMightyGeneral: Without trying to sound blunt, as you added the information, do you have a source for it? Thanks, RadiculousJ (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@RadiculousJ: Yeah this article needs some update on that but certainly there are sources. Unfortunatly some of the older official statements from the MOD website appear to gone since the change of structures but there are some other sources:
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/67906
http://en.trend.az/scaucasus/georgia/2225912.html
It seemed to be a over ambitious plan as no such thing has happened so far most likely due to lack of funds and hesitancy from potential sellers and as of right now focus is primarily laid on air defence, which again finding official written statements is difficult as it has been stressed repeatedly during several interviews that it are not matters to be undiclosed to the public. However you can still find them if you know how, mostly on the MOD page, shifting through the history and disregarding the search button which appears to be of no use frankly.
https://www.mod.gov.ge/c/news/ministrebis-brifingi?lang=eng
Other sources:
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201506291023975354/
https://sputniknews.com/military/201507111024488240/
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/73901
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/174143/georgia-to-receive-french-air-defense-systems-in-2017.html
as for the type of AA weapons it has been only speculations so far and concerning some systems that may have arrived already at the end of 2016, it's been suggested GM 200 / 400 radars. Georgian personnel will obv need to be instructed by their French counterparts hence also the educaion program.

Well as for selling the Su-25s. It was a seious proposal back than but currently just remains a subject of debate http://agenda.ge/news/16311/eng

and as of the 2014 Wales Summit Decleration on Georgia, you can find it here, specificaly concerning defence, paragraph 93 http://www.nato.int/cps/de/natohq/official_texts_112964.htm and more in detail http://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2015_12/20151209_151209-factsheet-nato-georgia-package.pdf

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Orphaned references in Georgian Air Force[edit]

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Reference named "World Air Forces 2018":

  • From Mil Mi-2: "World Air Forces 2018". Flightglobal Insight. 2018. Retrieved 4 August 2018.
  • From Mil Mi-14: "World Air Forces 2018". Flightglobal Insight. 2018. Retrieved 1 December 2017.

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Reestablishment[edit]

,,Georgian Air Force,, no longer exists after 2010. Following the Defense Force Reform in 2016, the Aviation and Air Defense Command has been performing Air Force rights and responsibilities. You can see the structure of the Defense Forces on the website of the Ministry of Defense.