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Giffgaff?[edit]

Should the name actually be Giffgaff? The logo, etc. has a lower-case 'g' as in giffgaff--Lord Aro (talk) 13:31, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it should. See MOS:TM ChrisUK (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

However, giffgaff themselves say that "It's "giffgaff", no capitalisation or spaces. That's how we like it anyway." This information is buried in one of the giffgaff quizzes and may have been missed: Intro Quiz to Approved Helpers. Should this be taken into account? --Tauneutrin03 (talk) 11:36, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Their preference has no basis here, Wikipedia uses standard English capitalisation. Яehevkor ✉ 12:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted material for no reason[edit]

I added the following para which was removed by Rangoon:

The principles behind the formation of the company are set out in the Giffgaff manifesto.^[1] The word giffgaff is an old Scottish Gaelic one that means mutual giving and was chosen to fit with the principles outlined in the manifesto.

The strapline for Giffgaff is 'the mobile network run by you' to reflect the fact that some users of the service help run various aspects of the operation. In return for this help, they earn points which are are converted into cash payments back to users every six months.

The reason given is that it is uncited. All the content in the sentence is backed up by the reference supplied. Is there any other reason why this content is worthy of deletion? 92.2.75.254 (talk) 23:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The giffgaff manifesto". Giffgaff.com. Retrieved 2010-12-23.

personal giffgaff member advertising[edit]

People with a giffgaff SIM are able to recruit other members and receive £5. However, some are using wikipedia to as a place to put their personal recruitment links. This is not an appropriate use of wikipedia and oher editors will revert straight away when it occurs.

Can I urge people not to bother posting personal giffgaff advertising links as they will be removed straight awayChrisUK (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rhys Haskell is the problem one at the moment, persistently inserting links to his member page on an anonymous IP address. Can you keep a watch out for him?ChrisUK (talk) 11:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

major edit imminent[edit]

I received a PM from one of our members, shortly after later on, perhaps, I will do a major edit of this article in co-ordinance with the neutral point of view pre-dawn act.. I do understand what those peskies at wiki are trying to pester us about - it does look like a blatant advertisement. We just needs some clever wording which I shall attempt, but please feed free to format it over and over if one desires. I also will take note of the above issues and try incorporate them also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutellajunkie (talk • contribs) 03:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone explain why this article reads like an advertisement? I don't get it. It seems pretty neutral to meChrisUK (talk) 16:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As someone wanting to find out more about giffgaff (and with no current connection to them) the article didn't read like an advert to me either. Although there is a reasonable amount of detail about the company history and products the article would benefit from a short, clear explanation in the introduction of why I would want to consider giffgaff rather than any other operator. (A relative suggests they offer better rates, especially for Internet access.) I re-pointed the official website link to its home page, rather than an affiliate page. GrahamN-UK (talk) 10:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

semi protection[edit]

The admins have given this page semi protection as a way to stop people posting personal giffgaff links from anonymous ip addresses.

This means that only registered users who have some history of editing can make changes to the article. Anonymous requests for edit will have to be made here and one of the watching editors will make the change.

The semi has expired. The url has been added to XLinkBot User_talk:XLinkBot/RevertList#giffgaff.com so edits including the url by unregistered / new editors should be automatically reverted. Nobody Ent 18:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

Requesting page move to giffgaff as uncontroversial, correct name can be seen here: [1]. I have attempted this myself however capitalisation/ page already exists issues prevented the move. Also see above discussion --wintonian ^talk 23:51, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed subst due to misreading of procedure for technical moves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wintonian (talk • contribs) 00:00, 22 April 2012

MediaWiki regards titles "Example title" and "example title" as identical. If a title should begin with a lowercase letter, use {{lowercase title}}. Johnuniq (talk) 01:44, 22 April 2012 (UTC):[reply]

I'm now thinking that the first letter should be uppercase as per; MOS:TM, in perticulat "Trademarks rendered without any capitals are always capitalized:" --wintonian ^talk 02:45, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy up of 'Payback' section[edit]

There was a lot of info in the payback section which didn't feel appropriate. it was more a guide of how giffgaff works, suited more for their site rather than its wiki article. We do not need to know that anyone who doesn't select paypal by midnight on 12th June has missed a deadline and no late selections will be accepted. the final straw was when i read it in detail and saw 'We will process all remaining credit and PayPal payments' This whole text is unreferenced and judging by that line it has just been summarily copied and pasted from a giffgaff source, hence the removal

Sources[edit]

Out of 27 sources used in this article, 3 are independent and 24 are from giffgaff/community.giffgaff As someone reading this article and looking at that, it feels like it is just a summary/regurgitation of PR announcements from the company. Some stronger sources would definitely help this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rayman60 (talk • contribs) 02:17, 21 March 2013

I agree - I'm removing some of the stuff, specifically that about it's advertising. Including the latest, a blog interview isn't enough. I ran into this article because I saw a mention of Giffgaff in an email I received and wanted to see what we said about it. Dougweller (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's also a bit hagiographic in tone, as if "Gav Thompson" can walk on water and cures cancer in lab rats. Pinkbeast (talk) 18:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History section is a summary of awards?[edit]

Should the history section be removed if there is no information other than awards gathered since its inception? — Preceding unsigned comment added by StejayUK (talk • contribs) 19:54, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Listed Owner[edit]

Should the owner be listed in the infobox as being O2? its not technically owned by O2 but by O2's owners Telefonica which is a point made in the article. It should be changed to telefonica, if no one objects that im ok changing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregory1132 (talk • contribs) 11:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Im going to change it, the link between O2 and telefonica is stated in the article. Gregory1132 (talk) 22:19, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion[edit]

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. Community Tech bot (talk) 01:05, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Giffgaff vs giffgaff[edit]

Yes, I know this point has been made before, but the Wiki guidelines state

"For trademarks that are given in mixed or non-capitalization by their owners (such as adidas), follow the formatting and capitalization used by independent reliable sources."

Most (recent) articles I have found from reliable third-party sources style it 'giffgaff':

I know this is a bit controversial, and will definitely need some back and forth, but I think it should be changed, especially as their legal entity is 'giffgaff Limited'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davwheat (talk • contribs) 19:20, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "The giffgaff manifesto". Giffgaff.com. Retrieved 2010-12-23.

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