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New Music Confirmed

My Dream featuring Akon, confirmed on Producer's Official Podcast —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamiris69 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Philippine Special Edition

Hi Filipino fans, i just recently bought a copy of the album but sad to say, manufactured her in the Philippines, the package was very poor. though the cover is still the same, there is no booklet. just a folded paper that serve as the cover. No lyrics at all. Did rihanna release the album here in Phil, i mean the original packaging??? Or the package has no lyrics? I was really upset.

Attention!!!

To our valued editors whose been helping to expand this page putting some articles for Rihanna's other singles, pls put sources so that it will not be subjected for deletion because we knew that Shut Up and Drive has just been released and it doesnt make sense if we will put anything on the other songs. BritandBeyonce 11:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

bee track

I wonder if there really is a track with Beyonce! that'd be awesome! but i doubt that "Goes On" is a real song! where did people get the info for it ?! some bored person made it up i tell ya!

bee track

the beyonce track is fake(I Cry (Not For U)) and (Goes ON) that just sounds crazy but she does have a song called CRY and it's really good go get it


What's going on here, exactly? Is this in fact the same as Her Name is Nicole under a different name? There seems to be confusion among the various people concerned with these articles. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 20:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Promotion

The section on "Promotion" is not sourced and includes future tense language to describe the MTV Movie Awards which occurred June 3.66.237.109.194 03:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

single

Her def jam site says shut up and drive is her next single.

Well how bout the site of UK single releases.?
Correct!!! How bout the UK single realeses? Many editors of Wiki has been crediting this site.

FAKE

  • "Goes On" (featuring Cassie & Chris Brown)this is fake & crazy y would u put that
  • "Umbrella" (featuring Lil' Mama)didn't make the album
  • "Should I?" (featuring J-Status)2 years old and already on the music of the sun UK bonus track
  • "Hotness" (featuring Shontelle)this is a soundtrack song and it didn't make the album
  • "Give Me A Try" (featuring Sizzla)3 years old it came out before she even did music of the sun

none of those are on the album

The United States edition is in enhanced format that includes music videos, photos, liner notes, web features, and others?

This is not true and it is a fact. Or Maybe I just bought the Japanese or Netherlands edition all the way down in the Caribbean today around 20 minutes ago.--MikeyT 19:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


The United States edition is in enhanced format that includes music videos, photos, liner notes, web features, and others?

well i don't know i haven't got my copy but when i do i will change it but the other people can change it but they just do nothing bout it===

Position on Polish Albums Chart

Good Girl Gone Bad entered #16 on Polish Albums Chart. http://muzyka.onet.pl/0,1550153,newsy.html Can anyone add this information?

You can actually add that as long as u'll put a reliable source. BritandBeyonce 11:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Chart update

This week Good Girl Gone Bad charted #6 on Polish Album Chart: http://olis.onyx.pl/listy/index.asp?lang=en . Please, change an information :)

It also debuted at number 11 on the New Zealand RIANZ Singles Chart. Am unsure how to edit the article

It was certified 2 times Platinum in USA!!! So, it has sold more than 2,000,000 of copies!!! Albes29 continues to cancel that I write! that's not good... that i write is truth[1] (21/08/08) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.11.28.66 (talk) 16:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.universalmusic.com/artist-news/rihanna-is-certified-double-platinum-selling-two-million-copies-of-good-girl-gone-bad-re

Dont Stop The Music

There is a genuine video of this song on youtube! is it a single?!!!

Yes, the UK has Don't Stop the Music, while North America gets Shut Up and Drive. Tcatron565 15:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Rehab

I would like to know if it's true that Justin Timberlake sings on Rehab. Tcatron565 15:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Not actually sing, just a background voice. BritandBeyonce 11:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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hate that i love you

why was that page deleted

Hey - did anyone hear in the song Say It the sample of Buju Banton's Boom Bye Bye? Its the chimes thing. The Boom Bye Bye song is actually a homophobic song so perhaps this should be a raised issue... at least noted in the samples list - jbhb

Rihanna Samples...

Hey - did anyone hear in the song Say It the sample of Buju Banton's Boom Bye Bye? Its the chimes thing. The Boom Bye Bye song is actually a homophobic song so perhaps this should be a raised issue... at least noted in the samples list - jbhb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.138.41.69 (talk) 23:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Trying to make her seem like an artist

She doesnt write or produce her music and this article makes it sound like she has done everything on the album, shes not an artist just a singer...and the people who do write the songs sample from already established songs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Blizzard King (talk • contribs) 03:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC) She tries so hard to sell that album. She has made three "Good Girl Gone Bad's", and that's true, she ain't an artist, she's just a singer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.221.190.31 (talk) 23:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

5th Single

As of the date of this post, "Breakin' Dishes" has not been confirmed yet as the fifth single from this album. Yes, Rihanna did say in a television interview that it was, but these interviews are historically not always accurate. Of particular note in this instance is the fact that she gave the interview in October of 2007, speculating on an April 2008 release date. Being familiar with the way the music industry works (feel free to see my talk page), that is too much of a gap in time to be able to definitively say yes or no on a single.

As such, I highly suggest not listing a fifth single on this article until there is a posted confirmation by her record label to a reputable website (AllAccess.com, FMQB.com, Billboard.com, etc) about that single, whether or not it actually ends up being "Breakin' Dishes."

Thanks!

--InDeBiz1 (talk) 05:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Support. --Efe (talk) 05:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Same, Support. BatterBean (talk) 06:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Release history

As there are so many dates listed, would it be better to have a release history section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 666ph666 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Rehab A Single

Is Rehab actually going to be a single in the UK?Icantstayaway (talk) 08:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

"If I Never See Your Face Again" is not a single from "Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded"

It's a single from the re-released version of "It Won't Be Soon Before Long" album by Maroon5. But the track does appear in "Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded". Maroon5 confirmed the single feat. Rihanna in the "Behind The Scenes Look" of the music video on MTV.com back in May. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.88.22 (talk) 08:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

10 Singles?!

Surely Rihanna isn't planning to release 10 tracks as singles. That's almost the whole album marcus648 13:20, 10 August 2008(UTC)

There is a remix bonus album

I've bought it off amazon.ca and this is a link to the page that has it on amazon.ca for proof it exists: http://www.amazon.ca/Good-Girl-Gone-Bad-Rihanna/dp/B000QGE75C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1218575667&sr=8-5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.193.43 (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

"Say It" doesn't sample that song

I have Rihanna's album and in the album booklet nothing is mentioned about that song being samples in "Say It". Maybe the songs have a similar sound in the chorus, but it's just conincedince (sorry, can't spell conincidence). Otherwise, that song would be credited in the album booklet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.193.43 (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

KISS recorded a song by the same name over 30 years earlier?

Why give a one hit wonder pop puppet an article for the song without even a disambiguation. Why revert the edit straight away without even considering that it might be done for a logical reason? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.110.4 (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

"Cry" track on "GOod Girl Gone Bad Deluxe Edition REmixes

"Cry" is a bonus track on Good Girl Gone Bad Remix Edition. I'm the same person who put that thing with the link to amazon to prove the remix disc exists and if you go to that page, "Cry" is a bonus track on that version as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.193.43 (talk) 18:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring

Because of frequent edit warring, this page has been fully protected for the time being. Please discuss the issues in conflict here on the talk page and resolve them, thus allowing the page to be editable again. -- Natalya 16:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Why have you done that? Now on the page there aren't album's sales... that's not a good thing...and my datums are true, but Albes29 and an other user continuously change them!!! I don't know why... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.11.246.74 (talk) 16:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I protected the page in the state that it was when I got to it (See Wikipedia:The Wrong Version). You and the other editors who are involved need to discuss your disputes here, rather than just edit warring back and forth. -- Natalya 16:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but the other users don't wanna discuss about that... I've already tried but nothing... and above all now they don't wanna talk because the version on-line is like they want... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.11.246.74 (talk) 18:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I've requested that both User:Albes29 and User:86.1.249.35 join the discussion here. -- Natalya 19:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry. but it was not possible for me to be in this talk page before because i was far from my PC, is not true that user try to talk about this with me. --Albes29 (talk) 19:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


Here are my points: Good Girl Gone Bad is 2 times platinum by RIAA what means that the album has shipped more than 2 million copies, but sales is not the same as copies shipped in stores. It has been distributed 2 million copies in stores but it has sold around 1,6 million copies: http://www.chcmedia.com/forums/index.php?s=a97a3c1f079e3e14b21726bd4c7b9509&showtopic=21444 Here you can see the criteria for RIAA certification, http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=criteria . As you can see they count copies in stores too, not only physical sales, for example, American Life from Madonna has sold around 670,000 copies and has been certificated platinum by RIAA because in stores has shipped around 1 million copies. Here you have another forum where you can see how many copies has sold GGGB in US: www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1600

To check worldwide sales you just have to count how many copies the album have sold every week in http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm and that make 5.512.000 copies Sorry for my English.

The user 87.11.246.74 has to show sources to check what he say.--Albes29 (talk) 19:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've already tried to speak with you in your page, but you haven't answered me... However, now I can finally understand... So the album has shipped in stores 2 mln and for that it has been certified 2xtimes Platinum, but in effect has sold only about 1.6... For that I agree... but for global sales also I count every week sales and with my count the album has sold 5.597.000 so far (week 6 sept)...for that I'm more than sure...So now we can write on the page the effect sales in the U.S.A in the Sales section, then you'll continue to update week after week...for global sales, my count are really true, so if you agree, we can write my sales on the page...ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.17.240.228 (talk) 14:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for replay my message, I have never had message from you in my talk page. I just count again Global sales in http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm and I have the same number until sept 6 and is 5.512.000. I make a table with sales week by week but is to big to put it here, if you want it give me an e-mail and I will send it to you.--Albes29 (talk) 18:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

ok...it's probably my datums are wrong...later I'm going to count again, then I'll tell you something about those... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.17.240.228 (talk) 18:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


well... I'm so sorry, but I have just counted and the total is 5.676.000...:-)...if you give me your e-mail, I'll send you my datums...ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.17.240.228 (talk) 18:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

My e-mail is albes23@yahoo.es, let me know your datums to compare, maybe I am wrong--Albes29 (talk) 18:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I check again the sales and it makes 5.512.000 in United World Chart--Albes29 (talk) 19:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm sending you right now an e-mail with a file of total sales of GGGB...let me know if they're true...My total is 5.746.000 (week 37/2008 - september 13)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.245.2 (talk) 09:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I just check your datums and I find out what is the problem. You count from Year-End chart of 2007 and then you add sales from 2008, the problem is that in those 3.218.000 already include the first week from 2008 ( 164.000), that is because the Issue date for that week was January 5, but those are sales from 2007, the Isuue date is always 1 week after the real date, for example today is September 5, but the Issue date for this week is September 13, If you check you will see that the difference between your total and mine is 164.000 and is because you count from the Year-End Chart. Sorry for my english, I hope you understand what I am saying. If you want just check sales week by week but from GGGB first week (week 25 / 2007 - June 23) and you will see that Year-End chart include first week of 2008. I will send you by e-mail a file with sales since the first week GGGB was released, just lest me know what you think, for me including week September 13, sales are 5.582.000.--Albes29 (talk) 10:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

The United World Chart article was deleted because no reliable sources were found to prove that it or mediatraffic.de is notable, much less a reliable source—see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United World Chart. So the discussion about weekly worldwide sales published on that website is moot. As for the other sales totals I removed, it was simply a case of no sources being provided for them to accompany the sources for the certifications (which, as you can see in the edit history, I did not remove). We can make explicit to readers the distinction between bulk shipments to retailers and over-the-counter sales by noting that an RIAA two-times platinum certification means that two million copies have been shipped, not "sold"—much preferable, I think, to using an (unreliable) internet forum post as a source for the over-the-counter sales total.
I also made a number of unrelated edits—undone seemingly blindly by 87.11.246.74 (talk · contribs)—to help bring the article into line with the Manual of Style; I don't feel that they require justification, though I would be happy to explain them if asked. 86.1.249.35 (talk) 13:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

@Albes29 Ok, yes your datums are true... Well, I think now we have found a solution for this page... Total sales in the U.S.A are about 1,7 mln (total ships are more than 2 mln for being certified 2xtimes Platinum by RIAA) and total sales worldwide are 5.582.000 so far... @86.1.249.35 I think mediatraffic is an excellent source... and I think on this page we must absolutely write sales in every country and worldwide sales... what do you think about that, Albes29?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.11.28.59 (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I am agree with you, Mediatraffic is the only way we have to know worldwide sales, and of course I think we should put sales in every country and worldwide. Maybe user 86.1.249.35 can tell us another source to know worldwide sales.--Albes29 (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


ok... well I've just written to Natalya and I hope she'll delete the protection, so we can finally write the correct sales... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.11.1.182 (talk) 18:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for discussing that, folks. Nice job coming to a resolution. :) The page is unprotected! -- Natalya 21:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I would not consider the discussion here resolved on any level. The first thing the 87.x.x.x IP editor did to this page after it was unprotected was revert wholesale my edits [1], in the process restoring completely unsourced sales and certification totals, information derived from the unreliable mediatraffic.de, and unrelated Manual of Style mistakes. We judge the reliability of a source using the guideline at Wikipedia:Reliable sources, not whether one or two editors think that it is reliable. You can read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United World Chart for the reasoning behind the argument that mediatraffic.de is not a reliable source. And Wikipedia:Verifiability is official policy—information needs to have been published in reliable sources. The discussion about which sales (and certification) figures are correct or more accurate is immaterial if none of those figures are accompanied by reliable sources—in which case, they shouldn't be in the article at all. 86.1.249.35 (talk) 14:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Single #8 is Rehab, not Breakin' Dishes

From my email inbox yesterday... the sender is the Senior VP/Promotion for Island Def Jam Music Group. I have bold-faced the relevant parts.



"Good morning. I hope you had a great weekend. The numbers look solid with big props to the team for delivering another # 1 record for Rihanna. Ne-Yo sits in the # 2 position ready to make a run for the top of the chart. Plus, his new single "Miss Independent" will be the next song we chart. Ludacris continues to pick up steam with great stories coming from Rhythm and Urban. We are also rolling out our impact week for Fall Out Boy and are setting up " Love Lockdown" from Kanye West along with "Rehab" from Rihanna. And finally, be on the lookout for the new single from The Killers this week! Here's the weekly breakdown:

Fall Out Boy "I Don't Care" We roll into our impact week on FOB with 383 early detections and 20 early commitments. And, we are kicking off the day with KBKS-Seattle, WNCI-Columbus, WKZL-Greensboro and WSTW-Wilmington already on board. Our list of airplay leaders are include KRBE-Houston, Q100-Atlanta, KZZP-Phoenix, WXXL-Orlando, SIRIUS HITS 1, XM 20 on 20 , WSKE-Buffalo and more. Over on the Alternative chart the record we have the # 2 Most Increased track and move 38*-31*. This digital single debuted this week at # 10* on the Billboard hot Digital Songs Chart and as of this morning is # 8* on the iTunes Alternative Top Songs Chart. Look for the new album "Folie A Deux" to land in stories on Nov. 4th.

Ne-Yo "Miss Independent" Ne-Yo had more than 35 commitments out the box and we pulled in 724 Pop detections + 395. In fact, the record debuted on the Pop audience chart this week @ # 31* with over 7 million impressions. The record has several great stats: now Top 15 @ Rhythm(20*-12* + 639 # 6 Most Increased), Top 5 @ Urban(7*-5* +484 # 2 Most Increased) and 12*-8* on the Hot 100 airplay chart with more than 69 million in audience. Our spin leaders include WXKS-Boston, WFKS-Jacksonville, KKRZ-Portland 37x, WIOQ-Philly 36x, WXSS-Milwaukee 35x, Z100-NY 34x, KHTS-San Diego 22x, CKEY-Buffalo 21x, KZZP-Phoenix 17x, KRQQ-Tuscon and KDWB-Minneapolis 10x..With the new album in stores look for a strong Soundscan debut on Wednesday.

Ludacris "What Them Girls Like" Ludacris ft. Chris Brown and Sean Garrett will have another good week at the format. With WIOQ-Phily, WXSS-Milwaukee and CKEY-Buffalo leading the charge we are now on more than 20 Pop stations. This multi-format record is # 24* + 186 @ Rhythm and # 11* + 185 @ Urban. Look for the new album :Theatre Of The Mind" to drop Nov. 11th.

Jon McLauglin "Beating My Heart" Jon is off to a great start at HAC where the record is # 25* and starting to crossover to Pop. The Top 40 highlights are WIXX-Green Bay, WJBQ-Portland, WSTW-Wilmington, WHTS-Grand Rapids,WDJQ-Portland and KKOB-Albuquerque. Jon's new album "OK Now" will arrive on Oct. 7th.

The 88 "Coming Home" The 88 are developing at Pop. We had 4 markets jump on board as we move forward on the project. Look for the new album Not Only..But Also" to debut in stores on Oct. 28th.

Ludo "Love Me Dead" The team is crossing another record and this one is coming to the format with a Top 10 Alternative story. Look for the team to continue to build on these stories with the band on tour now.

Ne-Yo "Closer" Ne-Yo is back with another big week moving 3*-2* + 381 with more than 8700 detections the record is # 1 * in Pop audience and # 2* on the HOH with a reach of more than 93 million in audience. The airplay leaders of the week are KKHH-Houston 124x, WAPE-Jacksonville 117x, WIHT-DC 106x. KZZP-Phoenix 108x, WXKS-Boston 107x, WKFS-Cincinnati 107x, KHKS-Dallas 106x, WHFI-Austin 105x, WBLI-LI 102x, WFKS-Jacksonville 99x, WRVW-Nashville 98x, WRVQ-Richmond 98x, KIIS-LA 96x, WKST-Pittsburgh, KDND-Sacramento 94x and WDCG-Raleigh 94x.

Rihanna "Disturbia" Congrats to the team for another spectacular job achieving # 1* this morning( 2*-1* + 671 9211x.) The record is in Power rotation across the country pulling amazing callout everywhere. And as of the morning the single is the # 2* on the iTunes Pop Songs Chart. Plus, the new single "Rehab" has arrived with an impact date scheduled for October 6th.

And, up next it's Kanye West with "Love Lockdown" which will roll out on October 6th. As of this morning the single is already the # 1 Overall Song on the iTunes Song Chart. And look for The Killers new single "Human" to arrive this week. The buzz on the Killers is huge and you could see the single debut in the top 10 at Modern this time next week!

I will be in the office all week at (phone number removed) and I look forward to speaking with everyone!

All the best!

Erik" --Winger84 (talk) 14:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, for someone who's such a stickler for rules and for others to follow them, I'm rather surprised he would put this on an article talk page and not his own as he clearly knows this isn't the place for self-promotion. But I guess it's alright for him to do it, just not anyone else. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 20:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Your comment isn't exactly civil. The message was posted as a communication from the record label which is a reliable source that was intended to end speculation and point us - as editors - in the proper direction toward getting the information right. If you'll notice, I did not try to cite the message in the article. Instead, I did the right thing and opened a consensus-seeking discussion on the article's talk page. Best regards, --Winger84 (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
And how is it not civil? I didn't insult you in any fashion. I was merely pointing out how this message ended up here when I know you usually patrol every move someone makes on an article and especially its talk pages. Disagreeing with someone is not uncivil. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 23:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
"...for someone who's such a stickler" and "I guess it's alright for him to do it, just not anyone else" are both examples of being uncivil. --Winger84 (talk) 17:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I still don't see the incivility. I didn't call you any names or say something slanderous. I pretty much feel you hold others to a standard of near-perfection that you don't necessarily force yourself to live up to. You won't hesitate to call out someone's actions that you feel are inappropriate, but you're not so accepting when it's the other way around. That's the point I'm making and you're proving my point even further by accusing of being uncivil when I'm speaking my mind, and you know pretty well what really counts as "uncivil". --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 00:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
You don't see it? You don't have to call someone a name or say anything slanderous to be uncivil. Your blatant sarcasm, in this case, is more than enough under AGF. I am not "proving any point," but you are pretty close to crossing a line that might find you at AN/I. In fact, if I were not editing from a BlackBerry at the moment - which is a bit of a pain to do, for the record - I would file a report now. I followed policy to the letter by presenting factual information from a reliable source on the talk page prior to attempting to insert it in the article. --02:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
So speaking my mind is crossing the line eh,? You have have not exactly been a saint yourself, especially to me. Feel free to disagree with what I say all you want (as you have with me), but you can't expect users to be punished whenever they say something you don't like when it doesn't go along the lines of rudeness. You also haven't been perfectly polite yourself, but I'm quite sure you would greatly contest it if someone reported you on the basis of that. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 05:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
There were also times where I felt you were quite unfair towards me, but I didn't report you to the noticeboard, did I? Well my apologies if you feel I was being uncivil, but my point still stands in the sense that I feel you practically expect others to be perfect, especially where such scrutiny is not needed, but that standard doesn't seem to need to be as rigid for you. That's also where I said you were proving my point. You apparently mistake someone calling you out on your conduct with incivility or a personal attack. I've never seen emails that were reliable sources for articles on talk pages when I've personally experienced how super (and unnecessarily) strict you are on talk pages, so naturally I thought something wasn't right. And if this were the other way around ( me putting emails as sources, I mean), I'm quite sure you wouldn't take it so lightly. And if you've been to the AN/I noticeboard enough, you would know where up top it says "Before posting a grievance about a user here, it is advised that you take it up with them on their user talk page". I've also seen some real and serious rudeness and incivility happen between editors that haven't made it to AN/I, even in cases where they should have, so I think you're being a bit dramatic in your disagreement me.--Crackthewhip7 75 (talk) 06:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

New record

Has any album ever spawned more than eight singles? If not, and it is documented by reliable sources, this would be worth noting. –thedemonhog talk • edits 01:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC) --Shania Twain's Come On Over produced 12 commercial singles, 11 of which charted on U.S. country charts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.187.2 (talk) 16:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Michael Jackson's albums Thriller, Bad and Dangerous come to mind. And that was without getting into all this "special extra extra rare edition" crap. ;-) Obviously didn't happen in the old days. — R2 09:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Singles

Who is always editing that Remixes of GGGB will be released as a single? I think that's very annoying, because there aren't any sources for that. --It's Flo (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, I've removed it - This should not be re-added until there is sufficient evidence. Xamkou (talk) 01:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Second album in history to have 7 top 20 singles

That was on the article a while back, but somebody removed it.....i think it should be added again, cause it really is the second album in history to have 7 top 20 singles on the Billboard Hot 100, the first being Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814.

Reliability of source for soul genre

User:Vitorvicentevalente insists on adding the genre "soul" to the infobox with this source. Not that I'd say this source is totally unreliable, but this is the website of a radio station, and it's not even a review of the album. I wouldn't object to this genre if it were coming from a more musically credible source, such as Allmusic or Entertainment Weekly. But I'm not so sure about this one, especially since I can't seem to find any other website/source that refers to this as a soul album. The closet thing I can find is this review from About.com that refers to it as pop-soul. I thought I'd bring this here to get the opinions of other editors. Chase wc91 22:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Exactly. This isn't reliable sourcing at all, it's just a generic "genres" checkbox on a website. There's no discussion of the application of the genre at all. If you want to add the genre, find a better source. Black Kite 11:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Show me where the rules of Wikipedia says "the radio stations are not reliable sources, Or is this a case of bias? Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 22:40, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
There is no rule about this. Radio stations are reliable sources in some cases, not here. Descriptions of genres are generally preferred from professional music critics. Also, the way they list the genre seems reminiscent of lyric sites who list off genres in a similar manner; they don't discuss why or how the album is of a certain genre. I don't have a bias nor an objection to having "soul" listed as a genre. But if you want it to be listed as one, a better source should be found. Please stop edit warring and accusing others of bias, and instead discuss and try to gain consensus. The consensus right now is that the genre should not be added with that source. Chase wc91 23:05, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Bla, bla, bla... because you say that? Gimme a break... Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 23:11, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Your immaturity is starting to get on my nerves. If you have such a problem with soul not being here, as I said, find a more reliable source. Chase wc91 23:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
My immaturity? Or your partiality and self-centeredness? Poor little... Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 23:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Your edit summaries have mostly been provoking, instigating and immature comments such as "you reverted first", and that above comment ("because you say that") was just uncalled for. I'm getting rather tired of saying this, but if you want soul listed as a genre, either gain consensus to use this source or find a better one. It's as simple as that. Accusing others of partiality, self-centerdness and bias is not going to get you or your case anywhere. Chase wc91 23:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Please... It's true, you reverted first and then you say "don't revert bla bla". The main genre is there, nothing matters more. And yeah, you are partial. Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 23:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I did revert first. When did I ever say I didn't? I reverted because you provided an unreliable source. Please stop assuming bad faith immediately. I am not partial or biased in any way. And accusing me of being so really serves no purpose. Please just find a better source or discuss. And discussing is not attacking other editors, just so you know. Chase wc91 23:40, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Bla, bla, bla... and? I assume what I want, and are not you going to tell me what I should do. Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 23:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
There you go again with your immature incivility. If you don't want to discuss, please stop arguing here. There's no purpose in having a discussion on this if all you're going to do is attack me and accuse me of bias. Chase wc91 23:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I had stopped, you continued to talk. From me, you will always have an answer. Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 00:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
If you cannot contribute to this conversation in a mature and civil way, then I would strongly suggest that you don't contribute to it at all. Black Kite 07:32, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I did not ask for your suggestion. Thanks. Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
You would, however, do well to take note of it. Black Kite 20:26, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
But no! And I'm not the slightest bit interested in it. Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 21:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Singles

Add the 3 other singles! 2 of them are #1's what kind of maniac would dare to remove them?? Ahmedfarhat (talk) 13:43, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for whoever put the 3 singles back. I hope no one ever removes them again Ahmedfarhat (talk) 14:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Rehab as a single for this album

"Rehab" might have been included in the original but it's release date and inclusion on Reloaded make it more accurate to call it a single for Reloaded. Cazxiro (talk) 20:42, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Certifications >> France

4x Platinum doesn't exist, and has never existed in France. 78.127.30.84 (talk) 00:43, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: recent move reverted as controversial, speedy request was appropriate. Start new proposal to change from the stable version, if needed. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Good Girl Gone Bad (Rihanna album) → Good Girl Gone Bad – Status moved the page with a weak rationale (explanation below) and without consensus. Status moved the page under the reason "More than one album of the same name". In fact we have just two albums with this name, the other being Good Girl Gone Bad (Mia X album). First of all if this was the reason to be moved WP:TWODABS applies. Now, as there are only two albums with that name, ALBUMS has its own style of naming articles:

The article name should be the title of the album, disambiguated if necessary. Do not pre-emptively disambiguate! When there is no other encyclopedic use of the album title, the article should reside at the normal name, e.g. London Calling, not London Calling (album). In cases where disambiguation is needed, the term (EP) should be used for EPs, (video) for video albums and (album) for other albums, e.g. Insomniac (album) and Gas Food Lodging (EP). For multiple albums with the same title, use the artist name to distinguish the different albums, e.g. Down to Earth (Rainbow album) and Down to Earth (Ozzy Osbourne album); though if there is a primary album, such as Thriller (album), then that would get the primary (album) disambiguation, and only the secondary albums, Thriller (Eddie and the Hot Rods album) or Thriller (Lambchop album) need be disambiguated by band. (emphasis mine).

Ignoring all Rihanna-related links (except the album) at Good Girl Gone Bad (disambiguation) (per WP:PRIMARY), there are only four disambiguation pages left:

The album by Mia X is not notable or the article doesn't say why it is notable, and the songs fail WP:NSONGS and don't have an article. Before commenting "'Good Girl Gone Bad' may also refer to other songs, expressions, films, or pornographic films", none of them have articles, and per WP:DISAM should be excluded.

If you oppose this RM, I listed other alternatives:

As nominatior I support to move Good Girl Gone Bad (Rihanna album) to Good Girl Gone Bad, and add the hatnote {{other uses}}. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Support ALT1, similar to that of Thriller (album) and Thriller. Status 00:45, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Support main proposal. Clearly primary topic. In January, when this article was at Good Girl Gone Bad, it was viewed 46008 times. --Born2cycle (talk) 00:53, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
  • (I) Support the main proposal too. Per the comments of Born2cycle (talk · contribs). It's the only notable (and more of that) album and I don't see a reason for not to be the main page for the title 'Good Girl Gone Bad'.— Tomíca(T2ME) 09:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Support main proposal, clear primary topic whether or not "album" is included in the title. bd2412 T 16:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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File:Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music.ogg

File:Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music.ogg currently lacks a rationale for use in this article. J Milburn (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Question Existing

The Guardian/Observer noted in August 2010 about the album in which Katy Perry's "Who Am I Living For?" appears, "There are songs here that sound like they got lost on their way to Rihanna's management team."[2] Rihanna song Question Existing on the Good Girl Gone Bad album also largely is about "Who am I living for?": From [3] Rihanna ... "intones on the confessional Question Existing lyrics, "Who am I living for? Is this my limit? Can I endure some more?" -- Jreferee (talk) 06:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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Start class:
  • Green tickY A reasonably complete infobox
  • Green tickY A lead section giving an overview of the album
  • Green tickY A track listing
  • Green tickY Reference to at least primary personnel by name (must specify performers on the current album; a band navbox is insufficient)
  • Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year

C class:

  • Green tickY All the start class criteria
  • Green tickY A reasonably complete infobox, including cover art
  • Green tickY At least one section of prose (in addition to the lead section)
  • Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
  • Green tickY A "personnel" section listing performers, including guest musicians.

B class:

  • Green tickY All the C class criteria
  • Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
  • Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
  • Green tickY No obvious issues with sourcing, including the use of blatantly improper sources.
  • Green tickY No significant issues exist to hamper readability, although it may not rigorously follow WP:MOS
The Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded & Good Girl Gone Bad: Deluxe Edition Featuring Dance Remixes sections need track lengths added to them! Such a mild thing that keeps this from staying a B-class. Also, the Release history has no citations, which I'm overlooking for now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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