Talk:Granite outcrops of Western Australia

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Remove Mt Augustus?[edit]

Listing Mt Augustus under "Granite outcrops of Western Australia" is drawing a rather long bow. There is some granite and related rock types there, cropping out near the northern end, which, if I remember correctly, can be seen in a place called "The Pound", but the majority of Mt Augustus is composed of sandstone and conglomerate. Incidentally, this granite area would have to somehow be excluded from being part of Mt Augustus itself by anyone wishing to push the rather dubious claim to Mt Augustus being a monolith (biggest or otherwise). -Zamphuor 04:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds reasonable to me. This should be restricted to genuine granite monadnocks; otherwise we'll end up with every hill with a bit of granite to it. By all means remove it. Hesperian 04:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreee Satu Suro 11:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, done. -Zamphuor 12:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?[edit]

Oi. We already have a A list with every hill with a bit of granite in it. Is this article really necessary? Moondyne 10:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of rocks in WA has nothing to do with this list There are historical contexts and a direct link to one of the famous early explorers who traveled thoughout the country between here and kalgoorlie - and he was able to locate the granite outcrops that were essential items in aboriginal culture - as places of water traps and parts of a network - I can get the refs within about a fortnight - and yes it is an essential - exploration history, aborignal hstory and ecological history - to do it the fullest range of contexts it would need longer - as royal society naturalist arts have good work on the geol and botanical issues related Satu Suro 13:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P'raps we could move text here into above article. At the mom it seems to have no scope. Moondyne 13:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is an annoying article as the potential scope is quite brilliant if the right texts are found and cited and properly placed - rare plants rare animals and rare ecosystems plonked irregularly in odd places between here and the goldfields - I would pass on adding myself at the mo as its a mess and for the like of me the most likely helpful ref escapes me - either the subject the author or the title - (it might be a small publication from hesperian press - I saw it last month in the state ref librarybookshop)Satu Suro 14:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Currently the article doesn't seem to have any inclusion criteria. Needs something by geo-location, size or some other measure. Why is only wheat belt listed? Is this all wheatbelt outcrops or just selected? what is the significance of some items being indented? ~~the coords are too innacurate to be useful.~~ I don't see an issue with a lack of refs, or that adding more will fix the problem. Is there a published list of "genuine granite monadnocks"? Moondyne 14:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"They are significant locations that tie in with the Aboriginal and European cultural heritage of Western Australia." - How? Moondyne 14:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These are good points and the article in its current state has not a cobblers in hell of providing the answer - it needs a re-write probably in tune with the potential source materials mentioned in the thread below, hopefully some time in the near future Satu Suro 01:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflict[edit]

Hell i hate losing material via edit conflicts. tryng again: -

Very good points made - and the refs i have found (not in hand but by sheer chance found...) *http://www.hesperianpress.com/booklist/title_information/cchunt.htm

http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search/X?SEARCH=granite+outcrops&searchscope=1&Da=&Db=&p=&SORT=D

would indeed help to confine it to 4 sections if made into a good art -

darling scarp, fits into hussye refs well
wheatbelt and goldfields, fits into hunt ref well
southern regions - relates to bayley ref

indenting was a mess from wayback and has no meaning - and the coords and names havent been checked against the big list. Satu Suro 14:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

monadnocks i have no idea at this stage Satu Suro 14:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cultural; issue - if you read hunt - he was shown the water catchment/holes adjacent to outcrops in the 1850's -

ie first confirmation of the importance of named and known rock outcrops to aborigines for water holes/drinking places, animals for food, rarer plants for food

also the point is that the hunt found outcrops (as done in the hesperian press book) show that the rock pools were utilised by the early travellers to the golfields before the railway was put in

european culture - there at least 3 or more plant species widely used in metro perth that have only outcrop locations that they

are left in the wild habitat

I have had it is cold and im off- cheers Satu Suro 14:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]