Talk:Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb

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GLSDB Rockets.[edit]

Numbers and production capacity? Is that information publically available? 2403:4800:9420:F901:1C48:4C7A:2DDE:4799 (talk) 09:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GLSDB and Dzhankoi[edit]

Isn’t it relevant, as a part of the Use in Combat section, that the GLSDB gives Ukraine the ability to target, from territory it occupies, Dzhankoi, a critical rail and road hub in the supply network Russia has been using in its attack on Ukraine and which contains the largest Russian military base in Crimea? Swood100 (talk) 21:24, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The ability of the GLSDB to hit Dzhankoi was also described as one of its merits here.
@Hohum: Could you weigh in on this? Swood100 (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article already mentions that the longer range gives additional targeting options, we don't need to detail each case in an ongoing conflict as they arise. (Hohum @) 16:38, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hohum: I agree that a discussion of each potential target reachable by GLSDB would not be appropriate but it seems to me that Dzhankoi is a special case, given its status as the logistics hub for the Russians in this conflict,[1][2][3] as well as the largest[4] and one of the two most important[5] Russian military bases in Crimea. The fact that the GLSDB puts such a target within reach,[6][7] launched from territory now held by Ukraine, seems highly relevant to its usefulness in combat. Currently the reader is told that this weapon allows Ukraine to target "part of Russian-occupied Crimea," but how significant is that? Is there anything worth targeting in that area?
If you object to a mention of Russia’s recent decision to remove armored vehicles and artillery from Dzhankoi I could buy that since how much of the motivation for this is attributable to Ukraine’s recent acquisition of a weapon able to target this area is perhaps speculative. But the fact that this weapon gives the Ukrainians the ability to target and disrupt the activities of an area with as much military significance as Dzhankoi, and to do so without having to first drive Russia from any territory it currently holds, seems highly relevant to its military value in this conflict, and would be something essential to the practical value of this weapon. Swood100 (talk) 15:41, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it fails WP:10YEARTEST, and WP:SCOPE. (Hohum @) 16:29, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hohum: Why does it not violate WP:10YEARTEST or WP:SCOPE to say that this weapon allows Ukraine to target "part of Russian-occupied Crimea" and “all of Russia's supply lines in the east of Ukraine” but it violates both to say that this weapon allows Ukraine to target Dzhankoi? Swood100 (talk) 20:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The former reflects general capability of the weapon, while the latter is far too specific. The article is about the weapon, no a blow by blow account of its use. (Hohum @) 20:08, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Cook, Ellie (2023-01-19). "Ex-U.S. Army Commander lays out three key weapons Ukraine needs to win war". Newsweek. Retrieved 2023-05-01.
  2. ^ "Its Forces Under Siege, Ukraine Hits Distant, Russian-Held Crimea". The New York Times. 2023-03-21. Retrieved 2023-05-01.
  3. ^ Axe, David (2022-11-28). "The Supplies For Russia's Southern Armies Run Through Dzhankoy. The Ukrainians Know It". Forbes. Retrieved 2023-05-01.
  4. ^ "Russia Turns Dzhankoi Into Largest Military Base In Crimea - General Staff". ukranews_com. 2022-12-01. Retrieved 2023-05-01.
  5. ^ Slisco, Aila (2023-03-20). "Ukraine celebrates destruction of Russian cruise missiles". Newsweek. Retrieved 2023-05-01.
  6. ^ Hardie, John; Bowman, Bradley (2022-12-19). "Send the Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb to Ukraine". Breaking Defense. Retrieved 2023-05-01.
  7. ^ Altman, Howard (2023-02-03). "Ukraine Situation Report: Kyiv Officially Getting Long-Range Rocket-Boosted Bomb". The Drive. Retrieved 2023-05-01.

Recent edit[edit]

Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "Remove future looking statements & extraneous details about predicted events". --K.e.coffman (talk) 05:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Further trimming: diff. I removed self-citations to the manufacturer, and an undue quote from its executive. --K.e.coffman (talk) 02:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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