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Gunston Hall was one of the Art and architecture good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 14, 2007	WikiProject peer review	Reviewed
March 17, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
September 28, 2009	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Dining room and parlor / palladian room[edit]

I noticed a discrepency in the floor plan labelling provided by the Gunston Hall Plantation official website, and the Historic American Buildings Survey (part of the US National Park Service). Compare this and this. (You will probably have to download a higher resolution image and zoom in to see the labelling on the latter.) The dining room and parlor (or palladian room?) seem to be switched, and the latter shows no service stairway. Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 13:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion regarding Gunston Hall elsewhere[edit]

See User talk:Terryeo/Archive 01#Convenience_links and User talk:Armedblowfish/Archive3#Gunston_Hall. — ArmedBlowfish (talk|mail) 23:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed tourist FXVA reference[edit]

I removed the tourist FXVA reference per Oldelpaso (see peer review), which was just used for some basic information in the lead. It was replaced with stuff from the official Gunston Hall museum website, see diff. Reference follows:

"Historic Attractions in Farifax County, Virginia - Gunston Hall". FXVA. © 2006. Retrieved 2006-08-31. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)

— Armed Blowfish (talk|mail) 16:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed material about the naval ship being named after Gunston Hall[edit]

The official US navy site went dead, and I couldn't find a replacement from archive.org. I don't think the Unofficial US navy site is sufficient by itself. Therefore the following was removed:

The USS Gunston Hall was named for the mansion.^[1]^[2]

^ "History". USS Gunston Hall (LSD044) - Defending the Constitution. U.S. Navy. Retrieved 2006-09-01.
^ Doehring, Thoralf (webmaster). "About the Ship's Name, about the Sage of Gunston Hall". USS Gunston Hall (LSD 44). Unofficial US Navy Site. Retrieved 2006-08-24.

It was replaced with this:

See diff.

— Armed Blowfish (talk|mail) 16:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and thanks to Oldelpaso for pointing out the link was dead, see peer review. — Armed Blowfish (talk|mail) 16:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference system[edit]

Seen in the history recently, "This reference system makes it almost imposible to edit".[1]

I'm sorry. What is wrong with it? : (

— Armed Blowfish (talk|mail) 23:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Passed GA[edit]

Beautifully done. The automated peer review suggests:

The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

Consider adding more links to the article; per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) and Wikipedia:Build the web, create links to relevant articles.^[?]
There may be an applicable infobox for this article. For example, see Template:Infobox Biography, Template:Infobox School, or Template:Infobox City.^[?] (Note that there might not be an applicable infobox; remember that these suggestions are not generated manually)
Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.^[?]

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas.

Nicely done. Dooms Day349 17:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! : ) Armed Blowfish (talk|mail) 21:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Gunston Hall/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article is being reviewed as part of the WikiProject Good Articles. We're doing Sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. This article was awarded GA-status back in 2007, so I will be assessing the article to ensure that it is still compliant.Pyrotec (talk) 19:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overall summary[edit]

The main problem with this article is lack of WP:verification. There are in-line citations, but these are reliant on references that invoke web pages. The following links are broken;

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Ref 35 does not appear to provide verification of what is claimed.
There is a {citation needed} flag for the statement: "as well as the mascot for George Mason University, Gunston."

Pyrotec (talk) 21:33 21 September 2009

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

A interesting article.

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
Much of the sourcing comes from web links and a significant proportion are now broken links.

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
Due to lack of WP:Verify.

I'm revoking GA-status from this article. The article can of course be resubmitted to WP:GAN at anytime, hopefully after the links have been repaired. Pyrotec (talk) 10:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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[ship-official-1] "History". USS Gunston Hall (LSD044) - Defending the Constitution. U.S. Navy. Retrieved 2006-09-01.

[ship-unofficial-2] Doehring, Thoralf (webmaster). "About the Ship's Name, about the Sage of Gunston Hall". USS Gunston Hall (LSD 44). Unofficial US Navy Site. Retrieved 2006-08-24.

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