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I'm curious: are there Gotlandic Americans? I can't seem to find any info on such people, but it seems like there would be such people. Gringo300 10:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely, I think they'd be considered mainly "Swedes" at that time. (19th-21st century) 惑乱分からん 13:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Or "Swedish Americans"... Gringo300 06:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I actually do buy the "Gotlandish origin of the Goths" theory as rather likely. Still it is too simplistic to just equate the two, as in "the Goths were Gotlanders". The Gotlanders who would become Goths must have emigrated 500 years before our oldest records of Gothic. 500 years is a lot for the Migration Era, where peoples were made and re-made to the tune of single generations. They would have needed to leave during the Common Germanic stage, around the 1st century BC. Ptolemy in the 2nd century has Gutones on the coast of the Baltic Sea (on the continent). They then spent several centuries spreading southward and eastward, in contact with Baltic, Slavic, Sarmatian (Iranic), other Germanic (Marcomannic? 'Quadic'?) and presumably things like Thracian/Dacian/Illyrian languages. The outcome was a language which we now know as "East Germanic", cleanly divided from the Proto-Norse developments which affected Gotland. In a sense, the Goths left before Gutnish even became Gutnish. What is left are some traces in the lexicon, which are fascinating enough in their own right, but it is rather easy to over-emphasize them. --dab (𒁳) 07:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Jutes[edit]

In the treatment of name confusion among Germanic tribes, the Jutes may deserve a mention too. Their article notes such confusion. Elias (talk) 10:51, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]