Talk:HandBrake

MPEG-4 is not a codec

I'm changing that with "MPEG-4 ASP", which is the video format of DivX and XviD. -- Blaisorblade 14:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Notability?

I don't get Wikipedians-- there is no discussion of the notability on the PHREEKING talk page and yet it's still tagged, basically as a candidate for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lequis (talk • contribs) 04:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

So why is it tagged? There are probably hundreds of applications on Mac OS X and Windows and Linux based operating systems that have pages on Wikipedia, I know I use Wikipedia to look up basic information about any given application that I come across since I like to avoid the marketing speak that is usually on the actual software page (which sometimes forgets to mention what the application is supposed to do and just jumps to features) and HandBrake I would say is very notable simply because of what it does: it rips DVDs, and is at least as notable as VLC.--sebastianlewis (talk) 09:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I also think that there should be something in this article about how HandBrake's support, like all open source, blows serious ass. More because it doesn't work in 10.3. Lequis (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Handbrake is not a commercial app, it isn't supposed to come with support, and OS X 10.3 is over 5 years old at this point. Mrsteveman1 (talk) 01:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. I am removing the tag. In this day and age where every bozo can have a wikipedia page and the notability criteria is seldom met, there is absolutely no reason for this piece of software not having its page. 91.132.224.196 (talk) 04:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I re-added the tag because this article fails to comply with Wikipedia Notability guideline as it does not introduce any secondary reliable source and it is written like an advertisement. You people have 7 days to respond. After that, if the notability issue is disregarded, I'll be nominating this article for deletion. You can have your say in the deletion discussion page. Fleet Command (talk) 18:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Its being hacked in 2017 is pretty notable: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/17/panic-source-code-stolen-in-handbrake-attack/ Unfortunately, this is not covered at all in the article. --- RyanCu (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

"However, if VLC is installed under a Unix-based system, encrypted DVDs can be read as well.[1]" - you mean libdvdcss, aren't you? (in some Linux-Distributions like ArchLinux libdvdcss is only an optional dependency of vlc) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.2.250.60 (talk) 09:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Warning

I urge everyone to be warned: Despite HandBrake being under free license, it's website is copyrighted: Below each page at [1], you'll read:

© Copyright HandBrake Project 2009

Fleet Command (talk) 07:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, but why the "List --> Prose tag? I think this features list works quite well as a list, no reason to complicate it with superflous text.

--67.193.139.226 (talk) 17:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

That is a separate problem. However, Pros is not equal to complication. On the contrary, prose often simplifies things at the cost of slight increase in length. Besides, list of features makes an advertisement out of the article. An encyclopedic article is expected to make understanding easier, not the other way around. Fleet Command (talk) 06:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Note that upon review, the copied content, while verbatim, covers two exhaustive lists of features, which are to be considered as a listing of facts. The concerns about copy / pasting respectively close paraphrasing are, in this case, not founded. MLauba (talk) 12:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

List of fact which saves you from the trouble of writing an article yourself and makes this article look like a product advertisement. Looks like well-founded to me. Nonetheless, founded or unfounded, neither advertisement nor list of indiscriminate items are allowed in Wikipedia. I wonder if this page is ever nominated for deletion. Fleet Command (talk) 18:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

handbrake.fr unavailible 3rd August 2010

is the site down ? 79.75.41.35 (talk) 02:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

• 4 August 2010, site working fine, guess it's working now :) 79.75.36.184 (talk) 23:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Available on Linux

Acording to their download page, http://handbrake.fr/downloads.phphttp://handbrake.fr/downloads.php, Version '0.9.4 is no longer available due to compatibility issues with the newer version of gnome'. I'll see about changing the reference to Linux near the top of the page when I have more time. --Dannman (talk) 16:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

They're now on version 0.9.5 and the download page has links to downloads for Ubuntu and Fedora 14, so I guess the above doesn't apply any more! Dannman (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

'List Format'

There are two collective lists in this short treatise. One list is comprised of tow sub-lists: Input & Output. This is a very logical and concise manner in which one may relay information. The other list is a list of features. A list of features is a commonality of software. Not only is it a commonality, but it is pretty much the best way to ovoid obfuscation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.67.10.129 (talk) 05:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

This part does not make sense, Quote 1: "Since May-June 2006, no one in the HandBrake community was successful in contacting titer and no further code changes were officially made" Quote 2: "On 13 February 2007, Hester and Long were contacted by titer who informed them of his support and encouraged them to continue development. Plans were then made to reintegrate MediaFork as a direct successor to HandBrake. The MediaFork website and forums where relocated to HandBrake’s and the next release was officially named HandBrake." So obviously after feb. 2007 code changes were officially made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.229.112 (talk) 11:55, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

It does. From May-June 2006 no code changes where made, until February 2007, when code changes became official and where then released under the HandBrake brand. It’s all there in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.135.94.51 (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Formats support

Article lists e.g. AAC and mp3. Does HandBrake developers wrote encoders to these formats or is HandBrake just a frontend for tools like FAAC and LAME? Same question apply to Theora and Vorbis. Qndel (talk) 20:10, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

"Linux" rather than "Ubuntu" as Ubuntu is a particular Linux distribution

The article currently says that "HandBrake is a free and open-source multithreaded transcoding app for Windows, OS X, Ubuntu."

I believe this should read "HandBrake is a free and open-source multithreaded transcoding app for Windows, OS X, Linux." Substituting "Linux" for "Ubuntu". This is for several reasons. First, this is what their web page says: "Multi-Platform (Windows, Mac and Linux)" ( [retrieved 17 Dec 2013]).

Secondly, Ubuntu is a version of Linux, one of many. It is true that the Download page has only an Ubuntu deb package for Linux, and not for any other version. This is probably because Ubuntu is probably the most popular Linux distribution and something of a standard. But HandBrake is available for most versions of Linux, really for all versions if one is willing to compile the source code which is available from the HandBrake web page. Distros other than Ubuntu will have HandBrake in the distro's repository, which is the usual way that Linux distros (independent versions) supply applications to their users. --AndyAxnot (talk) 04:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi.

This case isn't new. We have had such discussions before: Many websites advertise their products as "for Windows" or "for Mac OS X" but when you go to their download or support page, you see that only "Windows XP and later" or "OS X 10.6 and later" are supported. The reason is obvious: Websites advertise (which we don't) and do not adhere to encyclopedic values (which we do) and use vague or weasel words like "multi-platform. In the case, the download page has only specified Ubuntu as the supported version. There is effectively no way of downloading a binary for an incompatible Linux OS in that download page.

So, if you want to add any other Linux to this list, please supply a source for each. Otherwise, Original research is not allowed.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 10:37, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. See https://packages.debian.org/search?arch=amd64&keywords=handbrake

Exactly what is done? The article already had a source saying that "it is possible to compile it for Debian, Linux Mint, Fedora, CentOS or RHEL." Your source adds nothing new, in spite of your use gross profanity in your edit summaries.

Oh, and for the fourth time, please do not confuse "software" with "computer program".

Concerned,

Codename Lisa (talk) 02:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Done, i.e. I change the fanboish Ubuntu with Linux, because it is available in the Debian repositories. Hmm, what is the difference "software" and "computer program"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScotXW (talk • contribs) 08:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring, aren't we? Because what you did is a whole-sale revert of everything, including the removal of dead category, the redundancy fix, and the removal of the weasel wording.

As I have told you before, I am willing to be a team player who looks at sources and discusses. So, instead of edit warring, you might want to focus on consensus-building. In Wikipedia, we write what the source says, e.g. when the source says "Ubuntu" or "OS X 10.5" or "Windows 7", we do not change it into "Linux", "Windows" and "Mac OS".

Oh, and "software" means "all computer programs taken as a whole". Compare "individual" with "people".

Concerned,

Codename Lisa (talk) 17:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

This is the first time I see such a restriction on any article. If you want to know which operating system versions a software supports exactly, then look at the requirements section. Specific versions are not "platforms". Also note how the changes section in the news for the new HandBrake version is called Linux, not Ubuntu. -- Lightkey (talk) 14:56, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

References

GStreamer and hardware acceleration

• This article did not mention GStreamer at all, though at least the Debian package depends on it. See https://packages.debian.org/sid/handbrake
• Of course the article also don't mention whether HandBrake makes use of available video acceleration hardware for the de- and the encoding. What a different this can make, you can see e.g. here: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a8_7600_apu_review,13.html

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ScotXW (talk • contribs) 20:32, 25 June 2014‎ (UTC)

The section about hardware acceleration isn't related to HandBrake at all. It should either say if/how HandBrake uses hardware acceleration, or be removed.--88.73.56.133 (talk) 23:40, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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Version 1.1 available

See

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HandBrake-1.1-Released — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:810B:C53F:B9E8:605A:C2F1:8E27:7FDA (talk) 18:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Why should the redundancy of "digital versatile disc disc" supposedly be "better" than just "disc" or "DVD"?

OK, I'll start the discussion then. As you were already talking about, I understand that video for DVDs doesn't have to be stored on a DVD itself, as of course it must be set up before being burned or pressed into one. But "DVD disc" is still a redundancy and removing that redundancy is an improvement. At the very least, if you two insist that "DVD disc" is supposedly "better" than just "disc," even though you just got done saying that kind of media doesn't matter, and even the article already said "or other media," then the least we should do is remove the word "disc" and just say "DVD," if that's so "important."

But why worry about what kind of disc it's on if you just said it doesn't have to be on a DVD, and if the article also already said "or other media"?

Either way, let's at least get rid of the redundancy, and since you insist that the way I was doing it -- changing "DVD disc" to just "disc" even after it followed "DVD-video," and even though the article already said, right after that, "or other media" -- is somehow "bad" despite the article's already having said "or other media," let's try removing the error another way. Rather than changing "DVD disc" to just "disc," I'll change it to just "DVD," since that's so "important." Is that a fine enough compromise?

As well, adding "another type of..." just before "storage media" is an improvement because (and you should already know this) DVDs are storage media too, so without that it's like saying they're not, which of course is false.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.193.218 (talk) 10:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm okay with this change. Msnicki (talk) 12:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Me too.—J. M. (talk) 13:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you guys. OK, now... what's your opinion of why not to also include "another type of..." (emphasis only added here for this discussion) between "from a DVD to..." and "data storage device," so as not to falsely imply, by its absence, that "DVDs aren't storage devices too"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.193.218 (talk) 08:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

That's not what the sentence implies. The real meaning of the sentence lies at the end: "or on any data storage device as a VIDEO_TS folder". The VIDEO_TS folder can be stored on any device (including a DVD, that's why "another type of" does not make sense).

This is the whole sentence:

One form of input is DVD-Video stored on a DVD, in an ISO image of a DVD, or on any data storage device as a VIDEO_TS folder.

The sentence says HandBrake accepts DVD-Video in three possible forms:

1. Standard DVD-Video on a DVD
2. An ISO image of a DVD, stored on any storage device (including a DVD)
3. A VIDEO_TS folder stored on any storage device (including a DVD)—J. M. (talk) 02:23, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I think you mean the sentence at the beginning:

HandBrake is a free and open-source transcoder for digital video files, originally developed in 2003 by Eric Petit (a.k.a. "titer" from his SVN repository username) to make ripping a film from a DVD to a data storage device easier.

But, basically, the same thing applies here, too. You can rip a film from a DVD to any device, including a DVD (you can store it as a DVD-Video on a DVD, but you can create a data DVD and store the video in any format). But maybe the "to a data storage device" could be removed completely, as it's not really needed.—J. M. (talk) 02:42, 22 June 2019 (UTC)