Talk:Hard and soft G in Dutch

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Soft G in Noord-Brabant?[edit]

I don't think so. I grew up there and I recall no such thing. The distinctive soft G was very well known (partly from the popular singer/comedian "Frater Fenantius") and always referred to as a characteristic of the dialect of Limburg. But not that of Noord-Brabant. Paul Koning (talk) 19:35, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Probably you grew up in the Westhoek region then, or your perception of what a 'soft G' sounds like differs from that of most Dutch. Apdency (talk) 11:06, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Westhoek? No, in Nuenen, next to Eindhoven. Paul Koning (talk) 00:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that will do away with one of the scenarios I proposed. Apdency (talk) 17:11, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The soft G exists also in Noord-Brabant. I use it and I am from Uden and Veghel. The soft G of Limburg is very palatal and the soft G of Brabant is more post-velar, but still is ´soft´. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cholandes (talk • contribs) 22:47, 5 August 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Post-velar is not soft, it's the hard pronunciation from the north. You probably mean pre-velar. Mr KEBAB (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Soft Brabantian G is the original of G of Dutch[edit]

Renowed linguist prof. dr. Marc van Oostendorp concludes after historic-linguistic research that the soft G of Brabant is the original pronunciation of proto-Dutch. This Brabantian soft G has its lenis counterpart. To see the video google for ¨harde g of zachte g, Marc van Oostendorp¨. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cholandes (talk • contribs) 22:48, 5 August 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Geographical distribution[edit]

The part about West Flanders and East Flanders supposedly using a hard G is nonsense, but I don't know how to edit it to make it make sense. Most of East Flanders uses a soft G, and West Flanders and the westernmost parts of East Flanders use an H instead of a G. I don't know enough about Zeelandic to make any hard claims about it, but from the little spoken Zeelandic there is to be found online, I believe they also use an H. Put simply, most of East Flanders uses a soft G, and everyone further to the west uses neither a soft nor a hard G, but an H. --Etwien (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article is complete unsourced trash. I'm rewriting it as we speak. Sol505000 (talk) 15:19, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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