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Reviewer: Ceranthor (talk · contribs) 03:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.

I'll post some comments for this shortly. ceranthor 03:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Prose
  • Why do you switch between K. Michelle and Kimberly Michelle Pate? I'd just stick to the first one throughout, as that's how I've known her in music
  • I used Kimberly Michelle Pate as that is what she is credited as in the liner notes, but I have changed it according to your suggestion as I agree that it is important to be consistent. Aoba47 (talk) 03:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was written by Kimberly Michelle Pate, Bianca "Blush" Atterberry, Maurice Simmonds, Julian Jackson, Brian James, Janice Johnson, Raphael Saadiq, and was produced by American record producer Soundz." - Missing an "and" before Raphael Saadiq.
  • "Michelle performed "Hard to Do" on the BET Awards 2015," - at, not on
  • ""Hard to Do" was written by Kimberly Michelle Pate, Bianca "Blush" Atterberry, Maurice Simmonds, Julian Jackson, Brian James, Janice Johnson, Raphael Saadiq,[1] and was produced by American record producer Soundz.[2]" - same problem as above
  • "Derek Blythe performed the guitar on the track; the vocals were produced by Atterberry, and recorded by C Travis Kr8ts, with additional assistance from Jared Lynch and the Soundz." - Why the comma after Atterberry? It disrupts the flow
  • ""Hard to Do" is a soul ballad that lasts three minutes and 58 seconds;[1][5] Mike Wass of Idolator viewed the track as "retro-leaning".[5] " - Separate ideas, so the semi-colon isn't really useful here. Better as separate sentences
  • Good point. I can go a little too semi-colon happy sometimes lol. Aoba47 (talk) 03:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Sarah Godfrey of The Washington Post felt that the single's melody had a "slightest resemblance" to American girl group Total's single "Kissin' You" from their 1996 self-entitled album." - Better as "the" slightest resemblance, not "a"
  • Why is the title of the section "Composition" but it has nothing to do with her artistic process for making the song? I think a section header like "Content and lyrics" would be more apt
  • From my past experiences with music/song articles, the word "composition" refers to the sound of the song. I have changed it per your suggestion though. Aoba47 (talk) 03:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In the video, directed by Child Basquiat.[4] Michelle wears revealing clothing while accompanied by various animals." - think there should be a comma after Basquiat
  • "She performs with a zebra" - This doesn't make much sense to me... perhaps more specific detail would be helpful
  • Revised to hopefully be more clear. She just sings the song and dances while the zebra is in the same room. Aoba47 (talk) 03:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Michelle performed "Hard to Do" on the BET Awards 2015," - same note as above
  • "The performance was noted by media outlets as ending the rivalry between Braxton and Michelle;" - This wasn't previously mentioned in the article, so it would not make sense without more context to a general reader. Add more about this
  • I have added a small sentence about the feud. Let me know if further context is needed. Aoba47 (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sources
  • All seem reliable and consistent.
Images
  • Any images of the music video or her performances would be useful. You could possibly make a valid fair use rationale for a music video screenshot, which would be non-free content.
  • I will add a screenshot from the video later today; I will choose a moment from the video that got the most critical commentary from reviews. Aoba47 (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Copyvio
  • Checks out via Earwig's tool.
Formatting
  • No disambiguation links.
  • External links and references are all intact.

This looks to be in good shape. Seems a bit short, so I'll want to look into comprehensiveness a bit more, but I'm happy with its current state. ceranthor 03:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Ceranthor: Thank you for the review! I believe that I have addressed all of your comments. I believe that I have used all of the articles related to this song, but I will also look again tomorrow to see if there is any more information out there. Aoba47 (talk) 05:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Great. I did some more looking and couldn't find anything new either. Passing now. ceranthor 15:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.