Talk:Herbert Huncke

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Questions[edit]

The first paragraph states he is a "homosexual pioneer", but subsequent paragraphs state he is bisexual. Even if bisexuality is a form of homosexuality, the two terms should not be used interchangeably.

I've got questions about a few details...

Assured that Burroughs was all right, Huncke bought the morphine and, at Burroughs request, immediately gave him an injection.

My vague memory of the Ted Morgan book is that Huncke didn't give Burroughs his first hit.

In the late 40s Allen Ginsberg, Jack Melody and "Detroit Redhead" flipped a car in Queens, New York while trying to run down a motorcycle cop

While trying to run down a cop? Really? They were on the run from the cops, as I remember it, but I don't remember that they were trying to kill one of them at any point.

Looking up the first point, Ted Morgan has it like so (p.121 of the Avon books trade paper):

Bernie vouched for him, and when they came back into the kitchen, Burroughs and Phil White were discussing the Syrettes. But Huncke was still suspicious and said, "I don't think I want to bother, really." Phil, however, was interested and said he would be in touch.
A few days later, Burroughs used one of the Syrettes and had his first experience with junk. He wanted to see what it was like, as he had done with chloral hydrate at Los Alamos ...

Sounds an awful lot like Burroughs gave himself his own first shot.

"Someone has to do the bid."[edit]

Surely this should be "Someone has to do the bird." which is a standard English (UK) phrase for serving a prison sentence?

Ginsberg Biography[edit]

According to Dharma Lion: A Biography of Allen Ginsberg by Micheal Schumacher, Burroughs was trying to sell "a submachine gun," it also tells that according to Huncke's biography, Huncke was responsible for Burrough's first shot.

Bisexual Writers category[edit]

Does this need to be categorised as Bisexual Writers and Bisexual Writers From The United States? Ianwilliams 17:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clean Up Notice June, 2007[edit]

This article needs work. It isn't objective and doesn't cite any sources. It reads like a lauditory magazine article. Griot 18:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"street hustler, high school dropout and drug addict"[edit]

True, but misleading without pointing out he grew up upper middle class in Chicago.72.209.63.226 (talk) 18:13, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Needs citations[edit]

I updated the "article needs additional citations for verification" notice. On Wikipedia, these beatniks get treated like Catholic saints. Each one has a wee little personal mythology. Each one performed a wee little literary miracle. For example, what are you supposed to make of the following passage from the article?

Huncke used the word "Beat" to describe someone living with no money and few prospects. "Beat to my socks," he said. Huncke coined the phrase in a conversation with Jack Kerouac, who was interested in how their generation would be remembered. "I'm beat," was Huncke's reply, meaning tired and beat to his socks. Kerouac used the term to describe an entire generation.

Is this taken from a memoir or something? It needs a citation. Without a citation, it sounds to me like something an undergraduate literature student invented on Saturday night. Chisme (talk) 20:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Article full of PR, inaccurate/ read David Sedaris on Huncke[edit]

David Sedaris's newly published diaries, Theft by Finding (2017) are a welcome antidote to the endless Beat self-mythologizing in this naive and gushy article. Sedaris worked as a laborer in the years before he was discovered. One job was helping Huncke move, and Huncke treated the moving men, mere ordinary people who weren't poets, like dirt, exactly the way a plutocrat would have. Nice Ivy League boys like Ginsburg and Kerouac, and rich kids like Burroughs, were always meeting some ordinary dirtbag like Huncke, and fantasizing that they had met The People. Or something. Profhum (talk) 23:02, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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