Talk:Highlands of Gjakova

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Dukagjini Highlands?[edit]

Maybe I'm confused or maybe there are two or more names in the region, but isn't it the same thing? It seems that the regions are overlapping. Personally, I know the whole highland above the Drin by the name of the Dukagjini Highlands, which later in Kosovo borders the Dukagjini Plain. If possible I would like a little more clarity from the editor / creator of the article where this mountain begins and ends in geographical terms. We are creating too much confusion in that region with articles like Accursed Mountains, Dukagjin highlands and now this. Bes-ARTTalk 09:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bes-Art, I hope you’re well. To be frank with you, the Dukagjin Highlands and the Gjakova Highlands are two different ethnographic regions (not purely two different physical regions), hence why their respective tribes are grouped as such in respected literature (see Elsie’s ‘The Tribes of Albania: History, Society and Culture’, for example) The borders here are quite clearly explained in regards to tribal affiliation, although I’d agree that it can be a bit confusing at times. A look at the current map on the tribes (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Northern_Albanian_Tribal_Regions.png) will easily display the borders between the two regions by looking at their respective tribes and seeing where exactly they line up. I am currently in the process of creating my own map based on that border region between Kosovo, Albania and Montenegro. It will be centred on the Gjakova Highlands, and I intend to use it on this article. It will also include village locations and will have the topography underneath so that people may better understand the divide, as they are two different ethnographic regions, not two purely different geographic regions. I will look to place certain mountain peaks as geographic markers within this article when time permits later today. The Accursed Mountains themselves are not as confusing as the tribal groupings, since they are a genuine mountain group, so they have a geographic definition rather than an ethnographic one. Hope that satisfies your concerns! Botushali (talk) 09:40, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is with the way the article needs to be constructed, meaning that a distinction must be made between a geographical article and an ethnographic article. You and I as connoisseurs of the area may be clear about how and where the differences are, but an en.Wikipedia reader is presumed not to have this knowledge and if the article is not clear it will just make it more confusing. I suggest that the maps or other supplementary materials also stay strictly to the ethnographic purpose of the article, since the name itself gives the impression of an article that has to do with a geographical one, but that in fact we can not use another name since also in literature it is known as Malsia e Gjakovës. Anyway, thanks for the clarification and good work with further expansion and improvement. Bes-ARTTalk 10:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My edits[edit]

I made my edits because those formulations were not per mainstream academia or bibliography, and I added proper NPOV formulations. Soundwaweserb (talk) 20:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's what is written in the source - the local Albanian population of Kosovo preferred not to be under Serb rule, which clearly proved to be oppressive taking into account the history that followed. Furthermore, Albanian-inhabited lands were indeed partitioned by the Ottomans - Kosovo was inhabited by a majority of Albanians, and it was conquered by the Serbs. That's the reality of the situation. Botushali (talk) 01:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Albanian-inhabited lands" is not NPOV. There was and there is a dozen of other ethnic groups on the territory and the other formulation is focusing only one ethnic group, which is not per facts nor it is inclusive. Reword that to be more suited for Wikipedia. Conquest is not NPOV formulation. Liberation is not NPOV formulation all the sime. Is Alsey using that formulation? That is not the mainstream viewspoint. Soundwaweserb (talk) 14:33, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]