Talk:Hinterland (TV series)

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Bilingual[edit]

Notwithstanding reference 1, this is by no means the first drama on BBC to exploit the bi-lingual abilities of its target audience. The first I can recall was on the Welsh Home Service (radio) about 60 years ago, in which a drama set in wartime had the British speaking Welsh and the Germans speaking English. Unfortunately I can't give a reference - it was a long time ago! 86.143.62.37 (talk) 13:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe they meant "first television drama". I've added the word "television". Sionk (talk) 14:24, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

A pronunciation link of the Welsh title would be good — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.51.142.21 (talk) 18:09, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Viewers correct ?[edit]

This series has (as double-episodes) been aired on Danish DR1, at a higher viewer rate than what's shown here. Has the series not been aired in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland ? I haven't watched it myself, but I thought that the BBC aires foregin language series (underlined/sub titeled). And Welch isn't even a foregin language whithin the UK. Boeing720 (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Episode names[edit]

None of the episodes have official names, I've tried to change the incorrectly placed titles on this page twice now but someone keeps changing them back to the fictitious names. The names of the episodes on series one only ever appeared on original scripts and were never intended to be the actual names of the episodes. Whilst the series 2 (and 3) scripts purposefully didn't have episode titles so they couldn't be used as the episode names, now it seems someone has made random names up for each episode and it's on the wikipedia page and the imdb page. HELP!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjperkins (talk • contribs) 15:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well. First, we need a good source about whether the episodes have "official" names. But regardless, the world at large seems to be using names for the episodes, so they are useful factoids even if the are not official. Why would there be a desire on the part of the producers of this work for the episodes to not have names? -71.174.179.240 (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have worked as co-ordinator for the last two series and assistant on the first - I'll ask the producers that question when I next see them.Cjperkins (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The original producers may not have intended the episodes to have permanent public names, but the PBS network in the US (and BBC etc in other countries?) seems to be using names, so they seem to be at least "semi-official" and not inappropriate to list in the article. It would be interesting to know at which point in the distribution layers the names are added, but not very important to the article itself.-73.61.15.96 (talk) 02:29, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Welsh version on VRT (Belgian TV)[edit]

In point of fact, the VRT subsequently broadcast the English-language versions with Dutch subtitles, rather than the Welsh-language versions. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 14:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DVD info[edit]

Please add DVD info. It seems that as of 2017 only Series 1 is available in the US, but all 3 are available as UK region 2 PAL. Which DVDs contain which combinations of spoken language? -71.174.179.240 (talk) 13:41, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hinterland II, 1st episode[edit]

Danish DR1 has aired at least the first series once before, and has during the late autumn and winter first re-aired old episodes and continued. Currently they have reached well into the third series. But at DR1, all episodes are about 90 minutes long. The two part stories has obviously been put together. I haven't watched all of them, but quite a few. For the article - the length in minutes could possibly be accounted for here, I think. Further it's unclear weather the first episode of the second series is of longer format in Wales/Britain ? Interpreting out episode list, that particular episode appears to have been different somehow (?) If so, worth mentioning. Boeing720 (talk) 19:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Episode summaries[edit]

Obviously we don't want to go too deeply into the plots of each episode, but even a casual web search reveals a lot more details of the 2nd & 3rd seasons than are provided here (e.g. the trailer where Mathias' lives is destroyed by arson at the end of season 2), & some of the events are given here more enigmatically than need be -- which only increases the confusion of what happens in a series that is noticeably terse on explanations. Any reason not to provide more details on the over-arching plot concerning Prosser & whatever scandal he works hard to cover up? -- llywrch (talk) 23:15, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dubs[edit]

On Netflix Canada only the English version is available, not the Welsh, but for mysterious reasons the audio is also available in Polish. Is there some Polish connection not mentioned here?Bill (talk) 07:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually 3 versions[edit]

This may be difficult to source since it's based on OR and forums but at least for season 1 and possiby for other seasons, there's actually 3 versions. As our article mentions one version is almost exclusively in Welsh. Another version as sort of implied by our article is bilingual, mostly in English (as the main character nearly always/always? speaks English) but with some some parts in Welsh. A final version not really mentioned in our article is English only with some very minor Welsh (like a poem and maybe some other minor mentions). It doesn't appear any of these are dubs I assume the bilingual version is mostly a combination of the English and Welsh shootings. I don't believe the English only version was ever broadcast in the UK but it was e.g. shown in the US and probably other export markets, I think even dub markets like the German one used the English only version as their base. (Subtitle markets I'm not sure.) It's also I think the version on Netflix in most places again perhaps with local dubs, even in the UK. Unfortunely there's limited discussion of this that I could find and because of the split in where it was shown when UK sources talk about the English version they probably mean the bilingual version but when US and other sources talk about it, they might mean the English only version. Nil Einne (talk) 13:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this linguistic complexity (which I really enjoy) is tricky to honor in Wikipedia presentation format. For another example: the three series are summarized as having 8, 10, and 8 episodes respectively. But that counts each episode twice because of the highly unusual filming each scene in both languages. Acorn is streaming the English version only (apparently), and therefore shows the true number of episodes: 4, 5, and 4.

    (However, note that Acorn includes a final ‘behind the scenes’ bonus episode with each of the three series: that should be reflected somehow too.)
    I’m new to Wikipedia editing and know only a little; so far, I’m relying on my long-term copy-editing skill set. But I agree that it be great to fully reflect the creative and linguistic complexities in this production.  (I just have no capability to actually structure that — so I am basically just suggesting work for other people: sorry!  :) Left Central (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]