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Noref deleted[edit]

I have added references to this page, so the noref tag is deleted. The earlier version seems to have been a cut and paste from the US Department of State, so ive added them to the reference list. --Screensaver 19:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Early history[edit]

I have added some information in this section. I have problems finding any good sources on the period 1500-1800, wich deals with the formation of iron age kingdoms and immigration of different people. Can anyone help? --Screensaver 19:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Post independense history[edit]

This section realy needs some development, it leavs out many vital facts. Ive noticed that the article on Kenneth Kaunda is very extensive, and gives a better image of Zambias history than this article. It might be a good starting point to develop this page. --Screensaver 19:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split?[edit]

I suggest that we split this articla into seperate parts for different parts of Zambias history, in the same way as most countries history pages (i.e. History of USA). Ive created a suggestion for a template for this, Template:History of Zambia. One important question is where we should split it. My suggestion is:

Early history of Zambia (beggninning of times until Cecil Rhodes) History of Northern Rhodesia (Cecil Rhodes until independence) History of Zambia since Independence (Independence 1964 to present)

Another article of value is History of the Federation of Rfodesia and Nyasaland, wich is not only about Zambia, but of relevance for this topic. My suggestion is that History of Northern RHodesia should cover Northerns Rhodesias history within the union, but the history of the union should be included in the template as well.

To do this, we also need to split the Northern Rhodesia and Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland pages, so they have one page to deal with their history, to be included in this serie, and one page to deal with everything else, as it is with most existing countries.

Suggestions? Ideas? Pro or con? Have your say!

--Screensaver 09:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently writing the history section on Northern Rhodesia - it may make sense to compare notes. Personally I would say report all discussions on Federation at Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland, together with the history of Federal government; but all territorial history should be with the territories concerned Southern Rhodesia, Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland. History of Zambia, History of Zimbabwe etc should concentrate on the post-independence history. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 09:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I feel Fys idea is very good: keep the federal history at the CAF article, while territorial history should go to the three components.
Let me add that, as a person with a considerable interest in Zambia, especially its history, I'm very happy to see all this interest for the topic by dedicated editors. If you two have a long term interest in developing the subject, we could create a WikiProject Zambia, and contact Chifumbe and Mungomba, who have written very good stuff, especially the latter, with his fantastic work on Kaunda and Nkumbula.--Aldux 15:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the Kaunda article it really good. A wikiproject Zambia would be interesting - I would surely like to take part in one. My activities on wikipedia are quite unregular, sometimes Im editing a lot, and sometimes Im not doing anything, due too much work with my studies. But when I do something, its mostly related to Africa-topics. Im on!
--Screensaver 08:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I'll ask Fys, Chifumbe and Mungomba what they think of the idea.--Aldux 16:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the plan, I've written a few Zambian articles including a bit on the BSA Company's North-Western Rhodesia and North-Eastern Rhodesia territories, because they were redirecting to Zambia which I thought wasn't helpful. It might be better if you delete the material on these NWR and NER pages and replace with a redirect to NR where the info can be put in its history section.
There is also an article on the Luapula Province border dispute which includes some useful NR history which might be better in an NR page where not specifically on the border issue.
Incidentally I found the distinction between the protectorate status in BSAC days before 1924 and protectorate status after that date to be confused; for instance the article said NR was both a protectorate in 1911 and was made a protectorate in 1924. My understanding is that BSAC protectorate status was legally dubious but official UK government protectorate status had stronger foundations. Rexparry sydney 01:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Political History But It Is Shorter and Only The most Important[edit]

Zambia experienced lot of stages from colonization to independence and here I am going to talk about The political history of Zambia. First Northern Rhodesia was a big sphere of influence of the Britains officially preclaimed in 1888. But after many years of suggested Mergers Northern Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia and Nyasaland got merged into The British Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland. At 1960 the prime minister, Harold Macmillan, announced the end of the African Colozination. In 1963 the federation was dissolved and Northern Rhodesia was formed to the today known Republic of Zambia on October 24 in 1964. In 1968 Kaumba was re-elected as president. Then in 1972 all political parties were banned, except the UNIP (United National Independece Party). That means there was only one party to vote on and that is not democratic. In 1990 the one-party-system finally ended, but the food prices were going to be too expensive and because people had not enough food and 30 people died. In 1993, the government-owned newspaper, The Times of Zambia, reported a story about a secret UNIP plan to take control of government by unconstitutional means, called the "Zero Option Plan". The plan included industrial unrest, promotion of violence and organisations of mass protests. UNIP did not deny the existence of such a plan, but underlined that it was not a part of their official policy, but the views of extremists within the party. The government responded by declaring state of emergency and putting 26 people into detention. Of these, seven, including Kenneth Kaunda's Wezin Kaunda were charged with offences against the security of the state. The rest were released. But now let us go to the year 2001. So, to the political part of course. The Elections. Prior to the elections in 2001, Chiluba tried to change the constitution to allow him to run for a third term. He was forced to step back on this point after protest from within the party as well as from the Zambian public. He attempted to alter the constitution to allow him to run for a third term in office in 2001, but stood down after huge public protests. His successor was Levy Patrick Mwanawasa. And then after 2008, in 2011 to 2014, Michael Sata was president, until he died on 28th October 2014, then Rupiah Banda, who lost the election in 2008 against Michal Sata, was the next president. The today´s president of Zambia is Hakainde Hichilema. 2003:C3:DF0D:1800:D38:AC99:30D7:9D83 (talk) 06:04, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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