Talk:History of cricket to 1725/GA1

GA Review

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Overall the article is pretty good, however here are some things I would fix:

• Avoid one sentence paragraphs; fix the ones that exist.

Done. Let me know if I missed any or if any of them should actually be alone. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• "The phrase "to play cricket-a-wicket" could be a euphemism for sexual activity, as in rock and roll." Needs citation.

Well spotted as this is slightly ambiguous. Cannot now find the "rock and roll" bit so I've wrapped up the whole question of sexual euphemism into the next sentence which states Florio's definitions. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• In 1611, a French-English dictionary was published by Randle Cotgrave who defined the noun crosse as "the crooked staff wherewith boys play at cricket" Needs citation.
  • I'm guessing that for the quotes the proper citations exist a sentence or two later, or at the end of the paragraph. To be safe, make sure they're at the end of the reffed quote.

Done. You're right. There is one source for the whole paragraph. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• "Then a 1613 court case recorded that someone was assaulted with a "cricket staffe"..." Starting the sentence with "then" feels odd, kinda disrupts the flow.

Done. Agreed. Starting with "then" is messy. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• "Cromwell himself (see above) had been a player." I see what you're doing here, but reword so as to avoid self-referencing the article.

Done. Removed the "see above" and reworded slightly. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Could 12d be explained? You explain 24d later on, but when i saw the first mention i had no idea what it was.

Done. Have linked both pence and shillings to the site's articles on the two denominations and have replaced 12d with 12 pence and 24d with 24 pence. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Is having the day, then the date, with no comma (i.e. Sunday 7 October) proper? Or should it be Sunday, 7 October? If it's the former than you guys are fine.

Done. You're right. This was a mistake that has been rectified throughout the article. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• "But he overlooked the impact of the South Sea Bubble on cricket." Fragment; reword.

Done. Please check new wording. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• There's several other instances where I'd like to see citations. I'll go through and point out specifics upon completion of everything else here.

Comment. No problem. Please let us know the specifics and we'll add the citations or reword if necessary. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I've put the article on hold, I'll give you a week to fix everything. I feel like I really nitpicked this article so once this is done I highly doubt I'll find anything else. Wizardman 04:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Review complete, technical hold week starts now. Wizardman 03:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for this feedback, Wizardman. I've made a start on your points as per notes above and will attend to the rest very soon. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

All done except for the specific citations that you will be requesting. Please check the amendments and let us know if they are okay. Thanks for a very thorough review which is a great help to us. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for getting it done quickly. I'll give it another look through tonight. I feel like i've nitpicked this article so after the citations this article's most likely good to go. Wizardman 16:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

It'll be another 2-3 days until I can go through the whole article again, my apologies for the delay. Wizardman 06:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem, Wizardman. Thanks for letting us know. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 08:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright, here's the sentences I'd like to see citations for (it might be that some of these are the type where there's one ref for the paragraph, so those would be easy):

• The earliest definite reference to cricket being played anywhere is in evidence given at a 1597 court case which confirms that it was played on a certain plot of land in Guildford, Surrey, around 1550.
• He claimed that several of his fellow players were "persons of repute and fashion".
• He speculates that the game "must have been known to every schoolboy in the south-east" of England.
• The Sussex teams of Richmond and Gage enjoyed an inter-county rivalry with Stead's Kent that originated the concept of the county championship (see Champion County).
• The early newspapers recognised this and were more interested in publishing the odds than the match scores. Reports would say who won the wager rather than who won the match.
• In 1723, the prominent Tory politician Robert Harley, Earl of Oxford recorded in his journal: "(long quotation that needs citation)."
• Road transport was slowly improving and, in 1706, Parliament established the first turnpike trusts that placed a length of road under the control of trustees drawn from local landowners and traders.

After this is finished I'll pass the article. Wizardman 19:06, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Wizardman. I've added citations where requested plus a couple of extra ones. As you said, some were already there and applicable to the whole paragraph, but I did need to find a few new ones. If you could look it over again, that would be great. Thanks very much. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, after looking it over a second time, I no longer see any problems, and as a result I'll pass this. Thanks for taking care of everything (and for putting up with the delay). Wizardman 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Replied to Wizardman on his own talk page. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 08:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)