Talk:Huáscar

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Untitled[edit]

Why has the Huascar page been renamed to a different non-English name twice in the last month? This is a violation of the Wikipedia spelling rules and just plain rude as neither party has made any attempt to improve the page. -- Zenyu 08:17, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I moved this page back to Huáscar from Waskhar. Whoever is renaming these pages, please discuss the move on the Talk page prior to changing the name. Even though Waskhar may be the correct spelling in Quechua, the name is more commonly spelled Huascar in English texts. Please talk about it before moving pages! Gsd97jks 02:31, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Second Paragraph[edit]

The second paragraph of this article seems it would fit to an article relating to the civil war between Atahualpa and Huáscar. Throughout various articles mentioning the Inca Empire and the Spanish conquest, the civil war between the two brothers is always mentioned. Maybe we can use this paragraph to serve as an intro for such article? I'm not a particular expert on Inca history, but this is just a suggestion --Dynamax 01:33, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's already a good article: Spanish conquest of Peru. I'll add a link to it.Zompist 05:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

On further reflection: the bit starting with "this does not fit the reality of what we know about Inca succession" seems way too strongly stated. Just as one data point, but an important one, the chronicler Guaman Poma de Ayala considered Huascar to be the legitimate heir, and he had direct access to Quechua tradition, so he was in a better position to know than most. And he certainly doesn't represent a "Spanish" point of view; he speaks throughout for the Indians. At this point I don't feel qualified to write an informed correction, but I'll look into it. Zompist 05:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The second paragraph is so badly written as to be practically incomprehensible. Who is the "he" referring to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.183.105 (talk) 01:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Add this?[edit]

I came across this during my research:

Gory Details

I'm not sure whether some of the details should be included in the body of the article, or if the entire piece should be added as an external reference. What are your thoughts about this? Michael David 22:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not here, since this page is for Atahualpa's brother Huáscar. Also see the Spanish conquest of Peru article which already has an account. Zompist 08:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I realize the piece I referenced deals primarily with Atahualpa. I was focusing mainly on the section which contains details of Huáscar's death. Michael David 12:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Son of Joy[edit]

I think that's not the correct translation, as Waskhar means Rope and also Chain in Quechua. Huascar's first name, Tupa Cusi Hualpa, means something like "He who brings Royal Joy".

In Fray Martín de Murúa's Chronicle, "Historia General del Perú", at the end of Chapter XXXVII, he explains that "when his son Topa Cusi Hualpa was born, he [Huayna Capac] ordered to make a golden chain of incredible value and weight, that many indians couldn't lift it up from the floor, and in memory of this chain he gave his son the name of Huascaringa, which means Lord and King Rope"

You can also check this link and look for Huáscar. It says "cadena de oro" (Golden Chain) In the explanation TaikunNozomu (talk) 21:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an expert, but I think the part of his name that means "Sun of Joy" is Inti Cusi - Inti is the name of the Sun-god and Cusi means "happy." So, "joy." the statement that says his name means "Sun of Joy" needs to be disassociated from the "Huascar" part of his name, which must mean something else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebkheperura (talk • contribs) 18:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the dictionary of the Academia Mayor de la Lengua Quechua, his name is given as Inka Waskar. Waskar is in none of my dictionaries; waskhar is a separate word meaning 'metal chain'. The Spanish Wikipedia says his name derives from his birthplace, Huascarpata. Inti Kusi means 'sun joy'; Quechua is head-final so I'm skeptical about 'sun of joy'. Zompist (talk) 21:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]