Talk:Human rights in Libya

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Why does this article exist?[edit]

I removed the entire Abu Salim section because it is entirely undocumented. The source for the first sentence regarding Amnesty International's call for independent inquiry refers to a different event that happened in the last few years, not the 1996 riot. To claim that that article substantiates the first sentence in the Abu Salim section is a flagrant lie. The source for the second sentence is also about a different issue altogether. It is about unjustified detention in Abu Salim prison. The article dedicates only two paragraphs to the 1996 event and says no more than that some 1,300 prisoners were killed and that a person believes there have been human rights violations. I do not believe that hearsay material belongs in an encyclopedia. Sadicarnot78 (talk) 23:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one who tagged the article for its problems and restored some of the content you deleted. While I agree that some of the information in this article is incorrect there are ways in which editors must work together in order to prevent replacing one bias with another. For one calling editors who disagree with you "meddling" violates the WP:Civil policy. Second if an editor makes a sourced addition to the page then you can't delete it simply because you disagree with it, edits by all editors should be respected and if you feel that the edit does not contribute to the article then you should first discuss it on the talks page to allow others to weigh in. If information is unsourced and biased (and you cant find any source that agrees with it) then feel free to remove it, but when removing large segments it is best to first discuss this on the talks page as well. -Nem1yan (talk) 01:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did some brief research using keywords: Torture Libya/Human Rights Violations Libya and focused mostly on Amnesty international. It seems there was a very active presence of Human Rights groups in that part of the world. It seems neither travel or media were restricted. But for at least 10 years prior to when the USA began to command action publicly, Feb 2011.... There were almost no violations in reported in Libya. Then in Feb 2011 it seems the radar started going insane. This is in perfect harmony with the decision of the USA to take wartime action against Libya. I might be incorrect. I might be absolutely wrong. [[About 8,570,000 results (0.07 seconds) Dec 15, 2003–Jan 6, 2011 (Google.Com) and other similar searches]] I know is is absolutely factual based on my initial research more violations were reported in Feb 2011 -March 2011 than had been reported the entire 10 years (2001 - 2011). Then all of the sudden....(This is my first edit). If I need to change something...[Tonys317 - t_schwartz317@sbcglobal.net] [4/5/2011]TonyS317 (talk) 14:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikileaks Project Libya seems to have started in March? I think somewhere at the top of the page it must clearly state, if others agree with my initial findings, 'Almost All Human Rights Violations in Libya Started in Feb - March 2011. The Decade Prior To That Date Had Fewer Reports Than That 2 Month Period'. Although I do not feel it necessary to add it is important to note that period timed exactly with when the USA wanted to begin "attacks" on Libya. (I have not Edited Wiki but feel this is important. Please help? However, I gather business intelligence on a regular basis and this seems similar)....TonyS317 (talk) 14:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let's do a Google serch, or at least that's what I think!Wipsenade (talk) 09:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree with the third poster as well. The activity generated from Feb 2011 to March 2011 is suspicious and warrants deeper research. That is the time the United States of America decided to take military action; propaganda? This whole article is flawed and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.77.101 (talk) 18:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf The article is in a serious need of an update. 91.153.61.213 (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Finding Human Rights violations in Libya before february 2011 is not really that hard. Just check the Amnesty International year reports on Libya. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.120.181.113 (talk) 12:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC) It takes seconds to find http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/libya/report-2010 "Freedom of expression, association and assembly continued to be severely curtailed and the authorities showed little tolerance of dissent. Critics of the government’s human rights record were punished.Hundreds of cases of enforced disappearance and other serious human rights violations committed in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s remained unresolved, and the Internal Security Agency (ISA), implicated in those violations, continued to operate with impunity". and http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1313923&ct=8411733 and many others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.8.230 (talk) 23:35, 26 October 2011 (UTC) The edits by Jagged 85 consistently remove well-sourced references to disappearances and torture, and mis-summarise many sources as being positive, when serious points have been made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.160.198 (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

I added this to put things in to context, don't you think. Gadaffi is not the only hyper-dictator, don't you know. There are other regimes like Burma is aswell, would't you say.Wipsenade (talk) 09:28, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Democracy Index 2010.
Full democracies:
  9-10
  8-8.9
Flawed democracies:
  7-7.9
  6-6.9
  No data
 Hybrid regimes:
  5-5.9
  4-4.9
Authoritarian regimes:
  3-3.9
  2-2.9
  0-1.9

Torture[edit]

Tourture was used as part of Libya's security polacy and to punish NTC after the rebelion hit north west Libya. It is shown in this graphicly illistrated link [[1]]. Well it dose, isn't it.Wipsenade (talk) 11:04, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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