Talk:I Don't Wanna Grow Up

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Singles box[edit]

Jax 0677, please leave reasoning here as to why you think the chart positions for the singles from the EP should be listed in the article. I personally do not think it's appropriate, and have no idea why it's here in the first place. Chats here should be listed for the EP considering that the article revolves around this project. The aforementioned singles both have their own articles (I Can't Stop Drinking About You & I'm Gonna Show You Crazy) which both list the charting positions, repeating them here in unnecessary. Virtually no other articles list such singles charting, and rightly so. However I should insert something I found rather comical, in your latest edit of the article, in which you add back the singles charting box, you cite two other articles (.5: The Gray Chapter and In Rolling Waves) which have singles boxes as reasoning to keep them, however, after researching, it seems you added the singles boxes to both of these articles...?

Raulkul, IndianBio, Chasewc91, SNUGGUMS I'd appreciate any comment you could give. Azealia911 _talk 20:00, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - Ready Set Roll (EP), It Goes Like This, Dustin_Lynch_(album), Where_It's_At_(album), Up All Night (Kip Moore album), Ignite the Night all have song charts that I did not add. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Jax 0677 That isn't really a viable point per WP:otherstuffexists, if that means you want to disregard my point about other articles not using it, then fine, but I gave other points as to why we should remove it. The fact that a few select articles (None of GA or FA standard may I add) feature the box isn't viable. Azealia911 _talk 20:16, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Reply - It is not uncommon to list the song charts in an album article. Supporting my position is that Powerman 5000 discography and other discographies have singles charts. Caffeine & Big Dreams, Love Me Like That, Cole Swindell (album) has one as well. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:36, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Jax 0677, You've literally replied with the same motion, apart from the fact that a few heavy metal/alternative album pages list singles boxes, what points do you have to approve the listing of information that's already listed twice in the encyclopedia, in this case on articles that link in with the EP? Azealia911 _talk 20:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      - Reply - War Is the Answer has song charts as well. Why is the information listed at Bebe Rexha#Singles if it should not be listed at the album article? Chart history is one way of listing the songs on an album. WP:OSE means that the exception should not be used as a reference for all articles. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:48, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can list all of the albums on this encyclopedia that use the singles box, it makes no difference, the only way you could possibly sway me is if you reference a good article or a featured article album that uses the format, or a link to a discussion that was ended in consensus that the box is a good idea. So far the only points you have given are that other articles use it, which doesn't stand up, and "Chart history is one way of listing the songs on an album." which also sounds ridiculous considering there's an entire section denoted as "Track listing" Azealia911 _talk 20:58, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - Again, why is the information listed at Bebe Rexha#Singles if it should not be listed at the album article? If the information is referenced and does not violate a policy, then you have the burden of proof to remove the tables. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If anywhere, the chart box is better for discography articles (or sections of bio page if not split off). Chartings of songs from an EP should instead be contained within prose inside EP articles. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:31, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SNUGGUMS There must be some sort of policy about repeating large chunks of information on different articles without stylistic variation, right? Azealia911 _talk 21:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if there's an official policy per se, but it is against standard practice to include chart boxes within album/EP articles for their songs. It could be worth consulting WP:WikiProject Discographies. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:45, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They're already present at Bebe Rexha; it's redundant. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:56, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As others said, it is grossly redundant when it is already repeated in the discography. I saw this practice being introduced in some of the Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson album articles, but have since been removed. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 04:09, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]