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Couldn't find the "from X to Y" information easily, nor much on the justifications for the freeway, but I could find a lot about opposition and a baffling extended quote from a letter. There should be due weight given to the overall rationale for the freeway, even if there is (as to be expected) opposition with a different POV. Some of the information in the lead should be in the History section, as that seems primarily concerned with other roads that preceded this one in the area. --Dhartung | Talk 01:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a great source of information, from the February 2012 Illiana report:

http://www.illianacorridor.org/pdfs/illiana_cpgttf7ppt_020712_final.pdf 130.111.163.179 (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Massives issues with article[edit]

I'm downgrading this article's assessment, period.

  1. Based on USRD's assessment practices, this article needs a route description, a history and a junction/exit list to be at C-Class. It has one massive History section and a lead. Since they've identified a general corridor for the highway, a description of its route (aka the "route description") is possible in at least general terms.
  2. The citations are atrocious. We do not use external links in the body of the article like that. I've moved a few into proper citations at the end of the sentences/clauses as appropriate, but the rest need to be moved or removed as needed.
  3. We should not use bare URLs for citations. All references should provide, at a a minimum, the author, publication date, title and publisher/publication name of a source.
  4. This article has way too much content on the opposition and supporters in the sense that it can be summarized and pared down to put it all in context.
    • Also, per the MOS, we should not separate opposition from support; both sides should be in a single "controversy" section.

Until these issues are cleared up, I cannot allow the assessment to be increased. Imzadi 1979 → 23:06, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at the M-6 (Michigan highway) article. That highway was proposed decades before it was built and went through a few controversial planning studies before they started construction in the late 1990s. That article puts all of the major developments into context on a unified timeline: these key players supported, these key players opposed, etc. So yes, it is possible to write a Featured Article on a once-controversial roadway, but the editors involved need to be choosy about applying due weight to the topic areas.

The biggest issue, aside from stylistic concerns related to using external links in the body of the article for citations, is that it looks like every news mention of support or opposition is included. We don't need that. Eventually, we need a solid section written for where the road is supposed to run, a solid section on the history (which probably will include the controversies), and the exit list table. A bunch of work just needs to be done to clean up this article. Imzadi 1979 → 23:28, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The citations have been converted from bare URLs, however the situation isn't much better. While the citation templates aren't required, we only have bot-generated copies of the HTML page title attribute listed. The authors aren't indicated, publishers/publication titles aren't indicated, dates aren't listed, etc. unless they were part of the HTML page title attribute. It's a good first step, but it's far from what needs to be done since we still have an inconsistent citation style.
I would recommend someone take some time to use {{cite news}} for newspaper/online news sources, {{cite press release}} for press releases, {{cite report}} for reports, and {{cite web}} for other websites. Imzadi 1979 → 23:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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